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		<title>By: Prez Cannady</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/09/23/house-hearing-on-polar-weather-satellites/#comment-354961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prez Cannady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2011 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@vulture4: Setting aside the poetic license you take with Hall&#039;s words, I fail to see what the problem is.  Weather satellites are not going away.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vulture4: Setting aside the poetic license you take with Hall&#8217;s words, I fail to see what the problem is.  Weather satellites are not going away.</p>
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		<title>By: vulture4</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/09/23/house-hearing-on-polar-weather-satellites/#comment-354822</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vulture4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would have said absolutely nothing until I watched the complete video of the hearing. I was frankly shocked to see the Committee Chairman say openly that the reason the program was over budget was (to admittedly paraphrase him as I do not remember the exact words, and I apologize for the capitals) &quot;don&#039;t we all know the REAL reason this program is over budget is that NASA is secretly spending money to study CLIMATE CHANGE, forbidden knowledge which we specifically told them not to even think about.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have said absolutely nothing until I watched the complete video of the hearing. I was frankly shocked to see the Committee Chairman say openly that the reason the program was over budget was (to admittedly paraphrase him as I do not remember the exact words, and I apologize for the capitals) &#8220;don&#8217;t we all know the REAL reason this program is over budget is that NASA is secretly spending money to study CLIMATE CHANGE, forbidden knowledge which we specifically told them not to even think about.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Prez Cannady</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/09/23/house-hearing-on-polar-weather-satellites/#comment-354804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prez Cannady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 04:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@vulture4: What does global warming alarmism have to do with anything?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vulture4: What does global warming alarmism have to do with anything?</p>
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		<title>By: Rhyolite</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/09/23/house-hearing-on-polar-weather-satellites/#comment-354801</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rhyolite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 03:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Merging the programs in the first place was obviously, in hindsight, a mistake;&quot;

Merging programs usually is a mistake with F-111B, JSF, and even Shuttle being examples of programs that suffered from &#039;Jointness&#039;.  There are always non-overlapping requirements.  The problem is that requirements do not add linearly.  It is usually better to build something to do one thing well and then re-purpose later if it is suitable rather than to try to serve multiple masters from the beginning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Merging the programs in the first place was obviously, in hindsight, a mistake;&#8221;</p>
<p>Merging programs usually is a mistake with F-111B, JSF, and even Shuttle being examples of programs that suffered from &#8216;Jointness&#8217;.  There are always non-overlapping requirements.  The problem is that requirements do not add linearly.  It is usually better to build something to do one thing well and then re-purpose later if it is suitable rather than to try to serve multiple masters from the beginning.</p>
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		<title>By: vulture4</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/09/23/house-hearing-on-polar-weather-satellites/#comment-354794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vulture4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 00:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why the program is over budget is certainly a legitimate question, and not one I can claim to answer. But here are some ideas.

The biggest change has already been made, the split between NOAA/NASA and DOD. Merging the programs in the first place was obviously, in hindsight, a mistake; having worked NASA/DOD teams myself I would suggest that while individuals in both organizations work well together, the organizations are separated by such a vast gulf both administratively and culturally that attempting to collaborate on a major program like this was a fool&#039;s errand. The involvement of three separate agencies (NOAA, NASA and DOD) only made it worse. This at least has been corrected.

Second, Chairman Hall&#039;s (R-TX) pillorying of Kethryn Sullivan on the question of climate change, and his party&#039;s long fight to stamp out government spending on anything that smacks of support for the subversive Democratic propaganda of climate change, which is, in his view, just a plot to limit the growth of the Texas energy industry, suggests that Congressional micromanagement and obstructionism may have been a factor. Dr. Sullivan&#039;s hurried defense that NASA had already eliminated every transistor on the satelite that might provide any information on climate supports this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the program is over budget is certainly a legitimate question, and not one I can claim to answer. But here are some ideas.</p>
<p>The biggest change has already been made, the split between NOAA/NASA and DOD. Merging the programs in the first place was obviously, in hindsight, a mistake; having worked NASA/DOD teams myself I would suggest that while individuals in both organizations work well together, the organizations are separated by such a vast gulf both administratively and culturally that attempting to collaborate on a major program like this was a fool&#8217;s errand. The involvement of three separate agencies (NOAA, NASA and DOD) only made it worse. This at least has been corrected.</p>
<p>Second, Chairman Hall&#8217;s (R-TX) pillorying of Kethryn Sullivan on the question of climate change, and his party&#8217;s long fight to stamp out government spending on anything that smacks of support for the subversive Democratic propaganda of climate change, which is, in his view, just a plot to limit the growth of the Texas energy industry, suggests that Congressional micromanagement and obstructionism may have been a factor. Dr. Sullivan&#8217;s hurried defense that NASA had already eliminated every transistor on the satelite that might provide any information on climate supports this.</p>
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		<title>By: Prez Cannady</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/09/23/house-hearing-on-polar-weather-satellites/#comment-354776</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prez Cannady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 22:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@vulture4: Isn&#039;t that precisely what Congress is seeking?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@vulture4: Isn&#8217;t that precisely what Congress is seeking?</p>
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		<title>By: vulture4</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/09/23/house-hearing-on-polar-weather-satellites/#comment-354775</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vulture4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 21:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If necessary, replace the managers. The weather satellite program itself, unlike Constellation, is really needed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If necessary, replace the managers. The weather satellite program itself, unlike Constellation, is really needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Prez Cannady</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/09/23/house-hearing-on-polar-weather-satellites/#comment-354766</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Prez Cannady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 17:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Rhyolite: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;We have money for pork rockets but not for genuinely useful things like weather satellites.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So mismanaged unmanned programs are okay?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rhyolite: </p>
<blockquote><p>We have money for pork rockets but not for genuinely useful things like weather satellites.</p></blockquote>
<p>So mismanaged unmanned programs are okay?</p>
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		<title>By: Das Boese</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/09/23/house-hearing-on-polar-weather-satellites/#comment-354753</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Das Boese]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 23:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[vulture4 wrote @ September 24th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

What&#039;s really stupid about this is that climate and weather research would be just as vital and important even if there was no manmade global warming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vulture4 wrote @ September 24th, 2011 at 1:12 pm</p>
<p>What&#8217;s really stupid about this is that climate and weather research would be just as vital and important even if there was no manmade global warming.</p>
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		<title>By: vulture4</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2011/09/23/house-hearing-on-polar-weather-satellites/#comment-354742</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vulture4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Representatives from the Space Coast, Adams and Posey, want to eliminate NASA climate research, useless to Florida because it &quot;supports&quot; global warming, which they &quot;oppose&quot;. Similarly, Rick Perry does not &quot;believe in&quot; global warming. NASA data, on the other hand, suggests climate change is indeed occurring. However most NASA employees, at least in Texas, support Perry. Go figure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Representatives from the Space Coast, Adams and Posey, want to eliminate NASA climate research, useless to Florida because it &#8220;supports&#8221; global warming, which they &#8220;oppose&#8221;. Similarly, Rick Perry does not &#8220;believe in&#8221; global warming. NASA data, on the other hand, suggests climate change is indeed occurring. However most NASA employees, at least in Texas, support Perry. Go figure.</p>
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