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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/01/11/space-day-returns-to-florida/#comment-359936</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jan 2012 23:52:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Breaking news â€¦ President Obama is coming to Orlando on Thursday January 19 to talk about the economy. This would appear to be related to the Florida Republican presidential primary on January 31. No indication heâ€™ll make it 45 miles east to the Space Coast.&quot;

He talked tourism, joked with Mickey Mouse and didn&#039;t say a thing about space. As noted earlier, the Obama Administration has already made clear what its space policy is in an address at KSC almost two years ago. That&#039;s not going to change in Term 1. It&#039;s out of his in box, handled, stamped, indexed and filed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Breaking news â€¦ President Obama is coming to Orlando on Thursday January 19 to talk about the economy. This would appear to be related to the Florida Republican presidential primary on January 31. No indication heâ€™ll make it 45 miles east to the Space Coast.&#8221;</p>
<p>He talked tourism, joked with Mickey Mouse and didn&#8217;t say a thing about space. As noted earlier, the Obama Administration has already made clear what its space policy is in an address at KSC almost two years ago. That&#8217;s not going to change in Term 1. It&#8217;s out of his in box, handled, stamped, indexed and filed.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/01/11/space-day-returns-to-florida/#comment-359762</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 00:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama delivered his administration&#039;s space policy address for the U.S. at KSC two years ago this April.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama delivered his administration&#8217;s space policy address for the U.S. at KSC two years ago this April.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen C. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/01/11/space-day-returns-to-florida/#comment-359750</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen C. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 20:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellegood wrote:

&lt;i&gt;Space Florida is essentially empowered like an airport authority, to own, operate, finance, lease, and maximize access to space transportation infrastructure. The Air Force and NASA may (sometimes) wish to provide such services, but historically they have not been able to do it, due to statutory and other limitations.&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks, I was hoping you were lurking out there.

Breaking news ... &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2012/01/wh-obama-to-visit-orlando-on-jan-19.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;President Obama is coming to Orlando on Thursday January 19 to talk about the economy&lt;/a&gt;.  This would appear to be related to the Florida Republican presidential primary on January 31.  No indication he&#039;ll make it 45 miles east to the Space Coast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellegood wrote:</p>
<p><i>Space Florida is essentially empowered like an airport authority, to own, operate, finance, lease, and maximize access to space transportation infrastructure. The Air Force and NASA may (sometimes) wish to provide such services, but historically they have not been able to do it, due to statutory and other limitations.</i></p>
<p>Thanks, I was hoping you were lurking out there.</p>
<p>Breaking news &#8230; <a href="http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_politics/2012/01/wh-obama-to-visit-orlando-on-jan-19.html" rel="nofollow">President Obama is coming to Orlando on Thursday January 19 to talk about the economy</a>.  This would appear to be related to the Florida Republican presidential primary on January 31.  No indication he&#8217;ll make it 45 miles east to the Space Coast.</p>
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		<title>By: vulture4</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/01/11/space-day-returns-to-florida/#comment-359747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vulture4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ellegood makes some valid points. I stand (soemwhat) corrected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellegood makes some valid points. I stand (soemwhat) corrected.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellegood</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellegood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding vulture4&#039;s comment:

Space Florida is essentially empowered like an airport authority, to own, operate, finance, lease, and maximize access to space transportation infrastructure. The Air Force and NASA may (sometimes) wish to provide such services, but historically they have not been able to do it, due to statutory and other limitations. 

In addition to assisting SpaceX, Space Florida (or its predecessor agencies) actually arranged over $300M in leaseback financing for the Atlas-5 launch pad infrastructure, and did a similar leaseback deal for the Delta-4 Horizontal Integration Facility (HIF) for about $30M.  They are/were actually the owner-of-record for those facilities.  They also built and/or own the Space Life Sciences Lab at KSC, and other facilities like Launch Complex 46 and the RLV Hangar at the Shuttle Landing Facility. 

NASA now understands that they are not best suited to act as a spaceport authority for many underutilized assets at KSC. Rather than lease them directly to individual companies, it is more prudent to rely on a group like Space Florida to strike deals with industry to operate/maintain them, whether for commercial or government programs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding vulture4&#8217;s comment:</p>
<p>Space Florida is essentially empowered like an airport authority, to own, operate, finance, lease, and maximize access to space transportation infrastructure. The Air Force and NASA may (sometimes) wish to provide such services, but historically they have not been able to do it, due to statutory and other limitations. </p>
<p>In addition to assisting SpaceX, Space Florida (or its predecessor agencies) actually arranged over $300M in leaseback financing for the Atlas-5 launch pad infrastructure, and did a similar leaseback deal for the Delta-4 Horizontal Integration Facility (HIF) for about $30M.  They are/were actually the owner-of-record for those facilities.  They also built and/or own the Space Life Sciences Lab at KSC, and other facilities like Launch Complex 46 and the RLV Hangar at the Shuttle Landing Facility. </p>
<p>NASA now understands that they are not best suited to act as a spaceport authority for many underutilized assets at KSC. Rather than lease them directly to individual companies, it is more prudent to rely on a group like Space Florida to strike deals with industry to operate/maintain them, whether for commercial or government programs.</p>
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		<title>By: amightywind</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;I keep saying that microgravity is the next Gold Rush. This is more proof.&lt;/cite&gt;

Starfighters Inc. That&#039;s a name I haven&#039;t seen on the big board. Has our experience with high speed rail or green energy taught you nothing? This is proof of nothing except government hacks love to try to invent industries and pick winners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>I keep saying that microgravity is the next Gold Rush. This is more proof.</cite></p>
<p>Starfighters Inc. That&#8217;s a name I haven&#8217;t seen on the big board. Has our experience with high speed rail or green energy taught you nothing? This is proof of nothing except government hacks love to try to invent industries and pick winners.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen C. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/01/11/space-day-returns-to-florida/#comment-359735</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen C. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 13:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This morning&#039;s &lt;cite&gt;Florida Today&lt;/cite&gt; on Space Florida incentives to encourage microgravity research flights in Florida:

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012301120033

&lt;i&gt;Space Florida named three flight providers that have expressed interest in the program: Masten Space Systems of Mojave, Calif.; Zero-G Corp. of Arlington, Va.; and a partnership between Kennedy Space Center-based Starfighters Inc. and Star Lab, a project led by 4Frontiers Corp. of New Port Richey.

The incentives are the latest step in efforts to establish Florida as a hub for microgravity research, part of a broader strategy to diversify space operations after the shuttle.&lt;/i&gt;

I keep saying that microgravity is the next Gold Rush.  This is more proof.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This morning&#8217;s <cite>Florida Today</cite> on Space Florida incentives to encourage microgravity research flights in Florida:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012301120033" rel="nofollow">http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2012301120033</a></p>
<p><i>Space Florida named three flight providers that have expressed interest in the program: Masten Space Systems of Mojave, Calif.; Zero-G Corp. of Arlington, Va.; and a partnership between Kennedy Space Center-based Starfighters Inc. and Star Lab, a project led by 4Frontiers Corp. of New Port Richey.</p>
<p>The incentives are the latest step in efforts to establish Florida as a hub for microgravity research, part of a broader strategy to diversify space operations after the shuttle.</i></p>
<p>I keep saying that microgravity is the next Gold Rush.  This is more proof.</p>
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		<title>By: vulture4</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 05:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t want to be a nihilist; Space Florida was created to get launch operators to come to Florida, and I have no way of estimating how effective they are. Both Boeing and SpaceX are apparently going to launch commercial crews from the Cape, although Florida has Obama&#039;s Commercial Crew program to thank for it, not the tax-slashing Florida governor. But the Air Force did lease Cx 41 and 37 directly to Lockheed and Boeing (later ULA) and NASA has claimed for years that it wants to make facilities directly available for commercial activities and has the ubiquitous Space Act agreement as a mechanism for doing so. Space Florida did provide a mechanism for the state to provide about $30M to SpaceX, but given the size of Musk&#039;s investment it&#039;s hard to see this making a difference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want to be a nihilist; Space Florida was created to get launch operators to come to Florida, and I have no way of estimating how effective they are. Both Boeing and SpaceX are apparently going to launch commercial crews from the Cape, although Florida has Obama&#8217;s Commercial Crew program to thank for it, not the tax-slashing Florida governor. But the Air Force did lease Cx 41 and 37 directly to Lockheed and Boeing (later ULA) and NASA has claimed for years that it wants to make facilities directly available for commercial activities and has the ubiquitous Space Act agreement as a mechanism for doing so. Space Florida did provide a mechanism for the state to provide about $30M to SpaceX, but given the size of Musk&#8217;s investment it&#8217;s hard to see this making a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen C. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen C. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[vulture4 wrote:

&lt;i&gt;Typically Florida politicians want their own taxes slashed, but at the same time want more federal tax dollars to come to them. As to Space Florida, it is not clear what actual value they add as middlemen between KSC/CCAFS and the launch companies, and it is hard to see how such a small organization can spend so much on its own staff. They do take credit for anything that gets done.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, right now Space Florida is acting as the go-between for a lot of lease agreements between NASA and the private sector.  For example, the recent lease of OPF-3 to Boeing for the CST-100.  Technically, NASA leased the facility to Space Florida, and Space Florida leased it to Boeing.

Rumor has it a similar arrangement might be in the works with Stratolaunch for the shuttle runway.

My guess is that there&#039;s some sort of legal advantage for doing it this way.  Perhaps federal law prevents NASA from directly leasing a facility to the private sector.  I dunno.  Or maybe there&#039;s an advantage from a liability perspective.

In any case, Space Florida is a major player right now in bringing commercial space to Brevard County.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vulture4 wrote:</p>
<p><i>Typically Florida politicians want their own taxes slashed, but at the same time want more federal tax dollars to come to them. As to Space Florida, it is not clear what actual value they add as middlemen between KSC/CCAFS and the launch companies, and it is hard to see how such a small organization can spend so much on its own staff. They do take credit for anything that gets done.</i></p>
<p>Well, right now Space Florida is acting as the go-between for a lot of lease agreements between NASA and the private sector.  For example, the recent lease of OPF-3 to Boeing for the CST-100.  Technically, NASA leased the facility to Space Florida, and Space Florida leased it to Boeing.</p>
<p>Rumor has it a similar arrangement might be in the works with Stratolaunch for the shuttle runway.</p>
<p>My guess is that there&#8217;s some sort of legal advantage for doing it this way.  Perhaps federal law prevents NASA from directly leasing a facility to the private sector.  I dunno.  Or maybe there&#8217;s an advantage from a liability perspective.</p>
<p>In any case, Space Florida is a major player right now in bringing commercial space to Brevard County.</p>
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		<title>By: vulture4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vulture4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 23:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typically Florida politicians want their own taxes slashed, but at the same time want more federal tax dollars to come to them. As to Space Florida, it is not clear what actual value they add as middlemen between KSC/CCAFS and the launch companies, and it is hard to see how such a small organization can spend so much on its own staff. They do take credit for anything that gets done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typically Florida politicians want their own taxes slashed, but at the same time want more federal tax dollars to come to them. As to Space Florida, it is not clear what actual value they add as middlemen between KSC/CCAFS and the launch companies, and it is hard to see how such a small organization can spend so much on its own staff. They do take credit for anything that gets done.</p>
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