“Pres Cannady wrote …the reality is that the American people thanks to NASA and 30 years of incompetence…really dont see human spaceflight as doing anything useful…

Its more like they haven’t seen human spaceflight doing anything. For all the billions being spent year after year, what is being designed or built? What advancements are being made? Most of the money has gone into operating a 40 year old vehicle. Never made any improvements. Never made it more cost effective. Never derived anything ‘next generation’ from it. “

And never turned human spaceflight into a commercial concern where Americans could actually be personally involved. It became a cult of astronaut heros that only 1 in 10 million ever had a shot at.

With the lottery you only have to toss in a buck to be a part of it. You know you’re not going to win but you have a shot. You have to invest about 30 years of your life first to even begin to enter the astronaut lottery system. A price most Americans found to high an entry cost and why not many are interested.

LOL this and your other post, you really have no clue do you?

You keep yammering but you’re saying nothing.

NASA HSF has accomplished almost nothing of value over the last 30 years EXCEPT it has kept various “commercial” firms employed doing almost nothing of value for the money.

And?

The entire GOP theory of life these days is keeping corporations that the GOP likes in business even though they accomplish nothing very much of value.

You should really try and take a day off from making stuff up.

SpaceX is what the GOP hates…

Funny. SpaceX signed contracts with a GOP Administration.

…an innovative company that is actually accomplishing something that is making one of its old time “friends” look bad.

How is SpaceX making anyone look bad?

In what world does Romney–the businessman–kill a commercial manned lifter?”

LOL this and your other post, you really have no clue do you?

NASA HSF has accomplished almost nothing of value over the last 30 years EXCEPT it has kept various “commercial” firms employed doing almost nothing of value for the money. The entire GOP theory of life these days is keeping corporations that the GOP likes in business even though they accomplish nothing very much of value.

SpaceX is what the GOP hates…an innovative company that is actually accomplishing something that is making one of its old time “friends” look bad.

RGO

ROFLMAO tick-tock, tick-tick, bring a proposal like that to President Romney and he’ll give you an inswer in two words, per last evening: “You’re fired.”

In what world does Romney–the businessman–kill a commercial manned lifter?

“Relax, you’re going to have commercial manned lift in a few years”

ROFLMAO tick-tock, tick-tick, bring a proposal like that to President Romney and he’ll give you an inswer in two words, per last evening: “You’re fired.”

Yeah, well, Von Braun cultivated his pitch over decades back in the day and was in the right place at the right time and made the most of it. That kind of timing and luck with the credentials to back it up doesn’t occur very often.

Many of these advocates today are well past their shelf life, too– ol’Geno is in his 80s now and hasn’t ridden a rocket in 40 years and comes across as just angry over the scuttling of Constellation; Crippen is more or less a footnote to shuttle operations; Griffin has zero cache after the Ares mess and apperars motivated only by vindicating his rep and feuding with Garver, who’s little more than a lobbyist/bureaucrat. Bolden’s got a bad case of the Peter Principle, Aldrin has diminshed his own gravitas with his foray into cheezy entertainment venues, Lovell makes a good pitch but he more or less is a voice in the wilderness, is remembered, thanks to the film, for 13’s ‘successful failure’ rather than the Apollo 8 triumph and Armstrong, though consistent in his views over the years since Apollo 11, has avoided strong public advocacy positions when it really counted. Now it’s a little too late.

They sound just a little too old to inspire this generation- hence the laughter over moon bases by younger media folk across the media landscape today. Awful. Regardless of your stand on NewSpace or NASA, it had to make you wince. And Sagan’s dead. Paine is dead. Fletcher is dead. Petrone is dead. Low is dead. Faget is dead. Gilruth has passed; Kennedy and LBJ long gone as well. Lunney and Jerry Griffin have a voice but are overshadowed by Kranz, who’s is in his 80s and Kraft is what… near 90 now. They’re entitled to their retirement, too. Like Glenn.

Many years ago when times were more flush, Tom Stafford quietly warned that there’s no guarantee for a space program and that it’s something you have to work at to keep or it’ll just disappear. Seems he may very well have been right.

So the Constellation people are endorsing a candidate who wants to form another committee. Yikes.

Relax, you’re going to have commercial manned lift in a few years. You always were. Pace and Griffin aren’t out to kill it.

Pres Cannady wrote …the reality is that the American people thanks to NASA and 30 years of incompetence…really dont see human spaceflight as doing anything useful…

Those weren’t my remarks, they were Oler’s. And I don’t agree with a word of’em.

1. The failure of civil space is one of policy, not execution. Specifically, successive Presidents and Congresses, and their advisors, have spent 30 years preserving–expending only modest effort to improve–astronautical expertise.

2. The American people don’t give much thought to civil space, and to the extent that they do they don’t object to much of anything done its pursuit. If it were otherwise, we wouldn’t be wasting $5 billion a year on SMD.

Its more like they haven’t seen human spaceflight doing anything.

Do you really think the average citizen is more impressed by robotic rock sifting on Mars than people floating in a space station? Congress can’t even kill a telescope, yet we think that Americans are itching to kill HSF?