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	<title>Comments on: Wolf to Bolden: don&#8217;t even think about China</title>
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		<title>By: Dark Blue Nine</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/03/07/wolf-to-bolden-dont-even-think-about-china/#comment-364645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Blue Nine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 14:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;THe PRC has climbed a long way in two decades.&quot;

So what?  China has only completed three manned missions in their entire history.  Since 2005, they&#039;ve only managed one launch every three years.  And that&#039;s using a Shenzhou capsule derived from 45-year old Russian technology.

Whoop-dee-freaking-doo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;THe PRC has climbed a long way in two decades.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what?  China has only completed three manned missions in their entire history.  Since 2005, they&#8217;ve only managed one launch every three years.  And that&#8217;s using a Shenzhou capsule derived from 45-year old Russian technology.</p>
<p>Whoop-dee-freaking-doo.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 05:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dark Blue Nine wrote @ March 7th, 2012 at 2:30 pm
 
I would not characterize China as a potential partner with â€œdeep pocketsâ€. Chinaâ€™s economy is in an increasingly bad position, it suffers from deep internal divisions that are a huge drag on budgets, and geopolitically it has few good (if any) options.

Nonsense. But you&#039;ve already demonstated poor judgment on matters relating to space policy. THe PRC has climbed a long way in two decades. America, not so much. But you go ondenying the obvious and keep whistling past that graveyard.  You, too, Smitty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dark Blue Nine wrote @ March 7th, 2012 at 2:30 pm</p>
<p>I would not characterize China as a potential partner with â€œdeep pocketsâ€. Chinaâ€™s economy is in an increasingly bad position, it suffers from deep internal divisions that are a huge drag on budgets, and geopolitically it has few good (if any) options.</p>
<p>Nonsense. But you&#8217;ve already demonstated poor judgment on matters relating to space policy. THe PRC has climbed a long way in two decades. America, not so much. But you go ondenying the obvious and keep whistling past that graveyard.  You, too, Smitty.</p>
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		<title>By: Explorer08</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 02:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blue Dark Nine said:
&quot;I would not characterize China as a potential partner with â€œdeep pocketsâ€. Chinaâ€™s economy is in an increasingly bad position, it suffers from deep internal divisions that are a huge drag on budgets, and geopolitically it has few good (if any) options.&quot;

If you hadn&#039;t used the word &quot;China&quot; there I could&#039;ve sworn you were talking about the USA!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Dark Nine said:<br />
&#8220;I would not characterize China as a potential partner with â€œdeep pocketsâ€. Chinaâ€™s economy is in an increasingly bad position, it suffers from deep internal divisions that are a huge drag on budgets, and geopolitically it has few good (if any) options.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you hadn&#8217;t used the word &#8220;China&#8221; there I could&#8217;ve sworn you were talking about the USA!!</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 22:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Charlie Bolden-- the Peter Principle at work.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charlie Bolden&#8211; the Peter Principle at work.</p>
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		<title>By: E.P. Grondine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.P. Grondine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 22:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that the Wolf amendment is unconstitutional as written, as it intrudes on the President&#039;s ability to conduct the foritgn policy of the United States.

In any case, ther amendment has no effect on ISS partners&#039; conversations with China&#039;s space leadership.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the Wolf amendment is unconstitutional as written, as it intrudes on the President&#8217;s ability to conduct the foritgn policy of the United States.</p>
<p>In any case, ther amendment has no effect on ISS partners&#8217; conversations with China&#8217;s space leadership.</p>
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		<title>By: amightywind</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/03/07/wolf-to-bolden-dont-even-think-about-china/#comment-363519</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amightywind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 19:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;Thirdâ€¦what on the creators earth are we doing dealing with a nation that is systematically in its policies trying to bring down this country?&lt;/cite&gt;

Hard to figure you out. Sometimes you think too clearly to be classified as a liberal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Thirdâ€¦what on the creators earth are we doing dealing with a nation that is systematically in its policies trying to bring down this country?</cite></p>
<p>Hard to figure you out. Sometimes you think too clearly to be classified as a liberal.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Blue Nine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Blue Nine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 19:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;... within a decade Chinaâ€™s GDP will exceed that of the US. The ISS is short on access and short on cash. It needs a new partner with deep pockets and big rockets, and the Shenzou is so far more reliable than the Soyuz. The real rivalry between the US and China is in manufacturing and exports, not in the obsolescent technology of the ISS.&quot;

I would not characterize China as a potential partner with &quot;deep pockets&quot;.  China&#039;s economy is in an increasingly bad position, it suffers from deep internal divisions that are a huge drag on budgets, and geopolitically it has few good (if any) options.  (See link to analysis below.)  After Europe, China is probably the biggest threat to the ongoing global economic recovery.  The rate at which China has been able to fund it&#039;s human space flight program has been very slow and is unlikely to accelerate for the foreseeable future.

http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/state-world-assessing-chinas-strategy?utm_source=freelist-f&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=20120306&amp;utm_term=gweekly&amp;utm_content=readmore&amp;elq=f482bd9d699148cc8eca8ab83e0aab09]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; within a decade Chinaâ€™s GDP will exceed that of the US. The ISS is short on access and short on cash. It needs a new partner with deep pockets and big rockets, and the Shenzou is so far more reliable than the Soyuz. The real rivalry between the US and China is in manufacturing and exports, not in the obsolescent technology of the ISS.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would not characterize China as a potential partner with &#8220;deep pockets&#8221;.  China&#8217;s economy is in an increasingly bad position, it suffers from deep internal divisions that are a huge drag on budgets, and geopolitically it has few good (if any) options.  (See link to analysis below.)  After Europe, China is probably the biggest threat to the ongoing global economic recovery.  The rate at which China has been able to fund it&#8217;s human space flight program has been very slow and is unlikely to accelerate for the foreseeable future.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/state-world-assessing-chinas-strategy?utm_source=freelist-f&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_campaign=20120306&#038;utm_term=gweekly&#038;utm_content=readmore&#038;elq=f482bd9d699148cc8eca8ab83e0aab09" rel="nofollow">http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/state-world-assessing-chinas-strategy?utm_source=freelist-f&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_campaign=20120306&#038;utm_term=gweekly&#038;utm_content=readmore&#038;elq=f482bd9d699148cc8eca8ab83e0aab09</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stephen C. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen C. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 19:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To show you how nutty Wolf is on China ... In 1995 he claimed that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.snopes.com/horrors/cannibal/fetus.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;eating human fetuses is a delicacy in China&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To show you how nutty Wolf is on China &#8230; In 1995 he claimed that <a href="http://www.snopes.com/horrors/cannibal/fetus.asp" rel="nofollow">eating human fetuses is a delicacy in China</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 19:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[vulture4 wrote @ March 7th, 2012 at 11:17 am

Time to get real. China is as capitalist as we are, and within a decade Chinaâ€™s GDP will exceed that of the US. &gt;&gt;

I dont know that I agree with either of those.

The Chinese are no more capitalist then the Santorum crowd is for religious freedom...as for the Reds GDP...lets see.  I think that their economy is about to well &quot;slump&quot; RGO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vulture4 wrote @ March 7th, 2012 at 11:17 am</p>
<p>Time to get real. China is as capitalist as we are, and within a decade Chinaâ€™s GDP will exceed that of the US. &gt;&gt;</p>
<p>I dont know that I agree with either of those.</p>
<p>The Chinese are no more capitalist then the Santorum crowd is for religious freedom&#8230;as for the Reds GDP&#8230;lets see.  I think that their economy is about to well &#8220;slump&#8221; RGO</p>
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		<title>By: amightywind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amightywind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;Time to get real. China is as capitalist as we are&lt;/cite&gt;

Umm, except for that small matter of a currency peg. If the market determined the value of the yuan many of the imbalances that plague the world economy would disappear. What is unreal is this generation&#039;s unwillingness to confront the darker side of the rise of China.

&lt;cite&gt; and the Shenzou is so far more reliable than the Soyuz.&lt;/cite&gt;

It&#039;s only flown manned three. Nobody from the west has ever inspected it. An absurd claim. Of course they have flown dummies more often. Perhaps we could crew ISS with them. No one would be the wiser.

&lt;cite&gt;The real rivalry between the US and China is in manufacturing and exports&lt;/cite&gt;

The real rivalry is for military technology. We have more to lose, the chicoms have more to gain.

&lt;cite&gt;The most important thing we can do for world stability is to build trust and understanding between our countries, and hopefully avoid a new cold war.&lt;/cite&gt;

Tell that to Vietnam, Philippines, Japan, and Taiwan who are exposed to China&#039;s extravagant territorial claims. The cold war is already here. A lot of people are just in denial, or hope to make a few bucks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Time to get real. China is as capitalist as we are</cite></p>
<p>Umm, except for that small matter of a currency peg. If the market determined the value of the yuan many of the imbalances that plague the world economy would disappear. What is unreal is this generation&#8217;s unwillingness to confront the darker side of the rise of China.</p>
<p><cite> and the Shenzou is so far more reliable than the Soyuz.</cite></p>
<p>It&#8217;s only flown manned three. Nobody from the west has ever inspected it. An absurd claim. Of course they have flown dummies more often. Perhaps we could crew ISS with them. No one would be the wiser.</p>
<p><cite>The real rivalry between the US and China is in manufacturing and exports</cite></p>
<p>The real rivalry is for military technology. We have more to lose, the chicoms have more to gain.</p>
<p><cite>The most important thing we can do for world stability is to build trust and understanding between our countries, and hopefully avoid a new cold war.</cite></p>
<p>Tell that to Vietnam, Philippines, Japan, and Taiwan who are exposed to China&#8217;s extravagant territorial claims. The cold war is already here. A lot of people are just in denial, or hope to make a few bucks.</p>
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