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		<title>By: Dark Blue Nine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Blue Nine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 02:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;No, this claim&quot;

Well, if you&#039;re in a position to judge other people&#039;s space policy, budgeting, and management credentials, then you should have enough knowledge on these topics to be able to answer very simple questions like:

1) Is human space exploration an objective of NASA&#039;s enabling act?

2) Is commercial space a priority of the existing national space policy?

3) How much did NASA spend in total on human space flight activities last fiscal year?

4) Has a suborbital rockets ever flown higher than the ISS?

After a couple decades in this field, I know the answers to these questions.

Do you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No, this claim&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, if you&#8217;re in a position to judge other people&#8217;s space policy, budgeting, and management credentials, then you should have enough knowledge on these topics to be able to answer very simple questions like:</p>
<p>1) Is human space exploration an objective of NASA&#8217;s enabling act?</p>
<p>2) Is commercial space a priority of the existing national space policy?</p>
<p>3) How much did NASA spend in total on human space flight activities last fiscal year?</p>
<p>4) Has a suborbital rockets ever flown higher than the ISS?</p>
<p>After a couple decades in this field, I know the answers to these questions.</p>
<p>Do you?</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 20:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dark Blue Nine wrote @ March 15th, 2012 at 8:34 pm 

No, this claim: &quot;Iâ€™ve worked space policy and budgets at the federal level and managed or had oversight for various federal space projects for almost two decades now.&quot;   Aldrin&#039;s well documented history on advocating HSF on all fronts is not in dispute- he has always championed anything which keeps HSF, government exploration efforts or private exploitation efforts in the public discourse. =eyeroll=]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dark Blue Nine wrote @ March 15th, 2012 at 8:34 pm </p>
<p>No, this claim: &#8220;Iâ€™ve worked space policy and budgets at the federal level and managed or had oversight for various federal space projects for almost two decades now.&#8221;   Aldrin&#8217;s well documented history on advocating HSF on all fronts is not in dispute- he has always championed anything which keeps HSF, government exploration efforts or private exploitation efforts in the public discourse. =eyeroll=</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Blue Nine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Blue Nine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 15:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Thereâ€™s no evidence to support your claim.&quot;

Yes there is.  Aldrin supports commercial human space flight here:

http://spaceports.blogspot.com/2011/08/buzz-aldrin-wants-commercial-space.html

And here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/14/obamas-nasa-policy-divide_n_537148.html

And here:

http://www.spacetimesnews.com/news/2011/aug/04/buzz-aldrin-wants-commercial-space-access/

And many more places.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thereâ€™s no evidence to support your claim.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes there is.  Aldrin supports commercial human space flight here:</p>
<p><a href="http://spaceports.blogspot.com/2011/08/buzz-aldrin-wants-commercial-space.html" rel="nofollow">http://spaceports.blogspot.com/2011/08/buzz-aldrin-wants-commercial-space.html</a></p>
<p>And here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/14/obamas-nasa-policy-divide_n_537148.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/14/obamas-nasa-policy-divide_n_537148.html</a></p>
<p>And here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spacetimesnews.com/news/2011/aug/04/buzz-aldrin-wants-commercial-space-access/" rel="nofollow">http://www.spacetimesnews.com/news/2011/aug/04/buzz-aldrin-wants-commercial-space-access/</a></p>
<p>And many more places.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 09:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dark Blue Nine wrote @ March 15th, 2012 at 8:34 pm 
There&#039;s no evidence to support your claim.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dark Blue Nine wrote @ March 15th, 2012 at 8:34 pm<br />
There&#8217;s no evidence to support your claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Blue Nine</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/03/13/new-legislation-seeks-to-aid-former-astronauts-space-coast-workers/#comment-364745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Blue Nine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Mar 2012 00:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If you know anything at all, youâ€™d know Aldrin is on record for years indicating the moon is on the path to Mars... Aldrin has publicly stated the moon is part of the pathway to Mars.&quot;

Which, for the umpteenth time, has nothing to do with the fact that you were using Aldrin to argue against commercial space, when, in fact, he&#039;s a commercial space advocate.

&quot;Space Adventures is a broker â€” a tourist firmâ€“ a booking agentâ€“ a middle man. It is not a â€˜space program.â€™&quot;

Which, for the umpteenth time, has nothing to do with the fact that you were claiming that there is no profit in space tourism, when, in fact, Space Adventures has been profitable for years.

&quot;Youâ€™re a technician... Planning space policy is outside the area of your competence.&quot;

I&#039;ve worked space policy and budgets at the federal level and managed or had oversight for various federal space projects for almost two decades now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you know anything at all, youâ€™d know Aldrin is on record for years indicating the moon is on the path to Mars&#8230; Aldrin has publicly stated the moon is part of the pathway to Mars.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which, for the umpteenth time, has nothing to do with the fact that you were using Aldrin to argue against commercial space, when, in fact, he&#8217;s a commercial space advocate.</p>
<p>&#8220;Space Adventures is a broker â€” a tourist firmâ€“ a booking agentâ€“ a middle man. It is not a â€˜space program.â€™&#8221;</p>
<p>Which, for the umpteenth time, has nothing to do with the fact that you were claiming that there is no profit in space tourism, when, in fact, Space Adventures has been profitable for years.</p>
<p>&#8220;Youâ€™re a technician&#8230; Planning space policy is outside the area of your competence.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve worked space policy and budgets at the federal level and managed or had oversight for various federal space projects for almost two decades now.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 22:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aldrin has publicly stated the moon is part of the pathway to Mars. =sigh=]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aldrin has publicly stated the moon is part of the pathway to Mars. =sigh=</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Space Adventures is a broker -- a tourist firm-- a booking agent-- a middle man.  It is not a &#039;space program.&#039; If the Russians were not desperate for cash, they&#039;ve have never gotten off the ground-- and perhaps you should review their P&amp;L statement. =eyeroll=  W/o government assets to access, it&#039;s not a space program at all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Space Adventures is a broker &#8212; a tourist firm&#8211; a booking agent&#8211; a middle man.  It is not a &#8216;space program.&#8217; If the Russians were not desperate for cash, they&#8217;ve have never gotten off the ground&#8211; and perhaps you should review their P&amp;L statement. =eyeroll=  W/o government assets to access, it&#8217;s not a space program at all.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dark Blue Nine wrote @ March 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am 
 Dark Blue Nine wrote @ March 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am 
If you know anything at all, you&#039;d know Aldrin is on record for years indicating  the moon is on the path to Mars.  You&#039;re a technician, no more, no less, with post graduate shine on your shoes, and worse, an advocate for commercial space desperate to tap the Treasury and fund LEO operations which are a ticket to no place. Planning space policy is outside the area of your competence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dark Blue Nine wrote @ March 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am<br />
 Dark Blue Nine wrote @ March 14th, 2012 at 8:26 am<br />
If you know anything at all, you&#8217;d know Aldrin is on record for years indicating  the moon is on the path to Mars.  You&#8217;re a technician, no more, no less, with post graduate shine on your shoes, and worse, an advocate for commercial space desperate to tap the Treasury and fund LEO operations which are a ticket to no place. Planning space policy is outside the area of your competence.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;AW â€“ Obama approved more ocean drilling, and the BP blowout immediately followed.&lt;/em&gt;

Do you imagine that there&#039;s a connection between those two events?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>AW â€“ Obama approved more ocean drilling, and the BP blowout immediately followed.</em></p>
<p>Do you imagine that there&#8217;s a connection between those two events?</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Blue Nine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Blue Nine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;... a personal agenda and closed mind is more appropriate. and narrow minded technicians...&quot;

Really?  I havn&#039;t even posted in this thread, yet you&#039;re carrying your weird, off-topic vendetta into this thread after your obsessive-compulsive behavior shut down the last thread?  Really?

What an utter creep you are.

&quot;Now that youâ€™ve claimed LEO is easy to reach w/the government funded and designed Soyuz&quot;

Yes, LEO was an easy reach for Soyuz because it was originally designed for lunar missions.  This was already covered in the prior thread.  It&#039;s a matter of engineering, not funding source.

&quot;youâ€™ve decided commercial HSF is equated w/a tourism firm&quot;

This was also covered in the prior thread.  To repeat, I don&#039;t equate one company with an entire national space program.  But to an idiot who states that there is no profit in space tourism, as you did, Space Adventures proves that you&#039;re wrong.

&quot;And you might want to check w/olâ€™ Buzz Aldrin, who supports the moon... Commercial HSF advocacy always collapses...&quot;

Aldrin is a commercial human space flight advocate, you idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230; a personal agenda and closed mind is more appropriate. and narrow minded technicians&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Really?  I havn&#8217;t even posted in this thread, yet you&#8217;re carrying your weird, off-topic vendetta into this thread after your obsessive-compulsive behavior shut down the last thread?  Really?</p>
<p>What an utter creep you are.</p>
<p>&#8220;Now that youâ€™ve claimed LEO is easy to reach w/the government funded and designed Soyuz&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, LEO was an easy reach for Soyuz because it was originally designed for lunar missions.  This was already covered in the prior thread.  It&#8217;s a matter of engineering, not funding source.</p>
<p>&#8220;youâ€™ve decided commercial HSF is equated w/a tourism firm&#8221;</p>
<p>This was also covered in the prior thread.  To repeat, I don&#8217;t equate one company with an entire national space program.  But to an idiot who states that there is no profit in space tourism, as you did, Space Adventures proves that you&#8217;re wrong.</p>
<p>&#8220;And you might want to check w/olâ€™ Buzz Aldrin, who supports the moon&#8230; Commercial HSF advocacy always collapses&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Aldrin is a commercial human space flight advocate, you idiot.</p>
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