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	<title>Comments on: An Iowa senator&#8217;s concerns about a California NASA center</title>
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		<title>By: DJ Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/05/16/an-iowa-senators-concerns-about-a-california-nasa-center/#comment-368997</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DJ Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 16:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE: DCSC on Grassley&#039;s priorities &amp; focus on Raptor fighter and E.P. Grondine on slander &amp; vicious about Worden.  I see, simply, diversion here -- used by the likes of Worden (as lead of the OSI - Office of Strategic Influence.).  As this unravels, Raptor costs (and influence) will look like &quot;chunk change&quot;!  Few other Senators have such courage to take on this &quot;system&quot;.  Just do your research!  Suggestion to start:  See http://intelcrosstheline.blogspot.com/ (longer blog with numbered paragraphs.)

Of course, if you support Wikileaks, you will also support doing away with ITAR (allowing foreign nationals access to our secrets), tax evasions, and Soros&#039; New WOGG (World Order Global Governance) -- all to &quot;level the global playing field&quot; (i.e. a more flat world). 

DJ from San Jose]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: DCSC on Grassley&#8217;s priorities &amp; focus on Raptor fighter and E.P. Grondine on slander &amp; vicious about Worden.  I see, simply, diversion here &#8212; used by the likes of Worden (as lead of the OSI &#8211; Office of Strategic Influence.).  As this unravels, Raptor costs (and influence) will look like &#8220;chunk change&#8221;!  Few other Senators have such courage to take on this &#8220;system&#8221;.  Just do your research!  Suggestion to start:  See <a href="http://intelcrosstheline.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://intelcrosstheline.blogspot.com/</a> (longer blog with numbered paragraphs.)</p>
<p>Of course, if you support Wikileaks, you will also support doing away with ITAR (allowing foreign nationals access to our secrets), tax evasions, and Soros&#8217; New WOGG (World Order Global Governance) &#8212; all to &#8220;level the global playing field&#8221; (i.e. a more flat world). </p>
<p>DJ from San Jose</p>
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		<title>By: vulture4</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 01:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NASA acting in cooperation with private industry, helping to create high-tech jobs in the commercial market and promote US exports? Shocking!. Wait a minute, that was what NACA was created to do in 1915!

Grassley believes NASA should be limited to funneling billions of taxpayer dollars to a few big GOP contributors for a giant government-micromanaged program with no useful products.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA acting in cooperation with private industry, helping to create high-tech jobs in the commercial market and promote US exports? Shocking!. Wait a minute, that was what NACA was created to do in 1915!</p>
<p>Grassley believes NASA should be limited to funneling billions of taxpayer dollars to a few big GOP contributors for a giant government-micromanaged program with no useful products.</p>
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		<title>By: Dark Blue Nine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Blue Nine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 20:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What interest can NASA possibly have housing Sergei Brinâ€™s 767?&quot;

$1.3 million per year in Google payments to NASA, plus extra fees for utilities, fuel and parking:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/13/BUPRS4MHA.DTL

If you&#039;re going to criticize Google, at least use their search engine before posting ignorant questions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What interest can NASA possibly have housing Sergei Brinâ€™s 767?&#8221;</p>
<p>$1.3 million per year in Google payments to NASA, plus extra fees for utilities, fuel and parking:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/13/BUPRS4MHA.DTL" rel="nofollow">http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/09/13/BUPRS4MHA.DTL</a></p>
<p>If you&#8217;re going to criticize Google, at least use their search engine before posting ignorant questions.</p>
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		<title>By: E.P. Grondine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.P. Grondine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 19:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I find any claims that AF Gen Pete Worden deliberately did anything to undermine US security to be nearly slanderous.

Note also that Scott Hubard was dismissed from Ames on pretty trivial charges. 

This is vicious.

One problem Ames and NASA had and have was and is the use and maintenance of the dirigible hangar, a Bay area landmark.

AW - Google operates in an international environment.

Personally, on taking power in 2008 the Democrats should have made sure that Griffin answered Contempt of Congress charges for his response to the George Brown Jr amendment. It should have resulted in a GAO report, at a minimum.

It would have impaired ATK&#039;s attacks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I find any claims that AF Gen Pete Worden deliberately did anything to undermine US security to be nearly slanderous.</p>
<p>Note also that Scott Hubard was dismissed from Ames on pretty trivial charges. </p>
<p>This is vicious.</p>
<p>One problem Ames and NASA had and have was and is the use and maintenance of the dirigible hangar, a Bay area landmark.</p>
<p>AW &#8211; Google operates in an international environment.</p>
<p>Personally, on taking power in 2008 the Democrats should have made sure that Griffin answered Contempt of Congress charges for his response to the George Brown Jr amendment. It should have resulted in a GAO report, at a minimum.</p>
<p>It would have impaired ATK&#8217;s attacks.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 17:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@amightywind wrote @ May 16th, 2012 at 8:14 am 

&quot;Whistleblowers have questioned the benefit to the U.S. government from the Google fleet being housed at Moffett Airfield.&quot;

The priorities of Grassley are questionable and it would better serve the nation if a U.S. senator focused on  why Raptor fighter jets, which cost $400-plus million a piece, have faulty 02 systems which impair pilots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@amightywind wrote @ May 16th, 2012 at 8:14 am </p>
<p>&#8220;Whistleblowers have questioned the benefit to the U.S. government from the Google fleet being housed at Moffett Airfield.&#8221;</p>
<p>The priorities of Grassley are questionable and it would better serve the nation if a U.S. senator focused on  why Raptor fighter jets, which cost $400-plus million a piece, have faulty 02 systems which impair pilots.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Lassiter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Lassiter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 15:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It would indeed be interesting to get a full accounting of research activity from Ames about these vehicles, but to the extent they are used for regular deployment of any kind of sophisticated instrumentation, basing that instrumentation at Ames is far more sensible than basing it at some commercial airport, requiring Ames scientists and technologists to truck themselves out there to maintain it. 

I do find it a bit troubling how a personnel transport fleet (probably somewhat luxuriously outfitted) can be seamlessly shared with instrumentation that requires a lot of hands-on access. Cables on the floor and instrumentation engineers and scientists traipsing through it don&#039;t quite seem consistent with a corporate personnel transport aircraft. Scheduling must be a mess as well. Is the science being done not time-critical, such that Sergei can roll in and tell them to postpone it?

The use of KSC launch facilities for commercial purposes not involving NASA has some relevance in this regard, I would think.

Of course, Ames originally cleared out and cleaned up 211 to make room for SOFIA, before that aircraft was sent to Palmdale/DFRC. Ames is desperate to do something useful with 211. Not too much more you can do with a hanger other than putting airplanes in it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would indeed be interesting to get a full accounting of research activity from Ames about these vehicles, but to the extent they are used for regular deployment of any kind of sophisticated instrumentation, basing that instrumentation at Ames is far more sensible than basing it at some commercial airport, requiring Ames scientists and technologists to truck themselves out there to maintain it. </p>
<p>I do find it a bit troubling how a personnel transport fleet (probably somewhat luxuriously outfitted) can be seamlessly shared with instrumentation that requires a lot of hands-on access. Cables on the floor and instrumentation engineers and scientists traipsing through it don&#8217;t quite seem consistent with a corporate personnel transport aircraft. Scheduling must be a mess as well. Is the science being done not time-critical, such that Sergei can roll in and tell them to postpone it?</p>
<p>The use of KSC launch facilities for commercial purposes not involving NASA has some relevance in this regard, I would think.</p>
<p>Of course, Ames originally cleared out and cleaned up 211 to make room for SOFIA, before that aircraft was sent to Palmdale/DFRC. Ames is desperate to do something useful with 211. Not too much more you can do with a hanger other than putting airplanes in it.</p>
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		<title>By: amightywind</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;Whistleblowers have questioned the benefit to the U.S. government from the Google fleet being housed at Moffett Airfield.&lt;/cite&gt;

Good for Senator Grassley. When I first heard of this deal making years ago I wondered the same thing. What interest can NASA possibly have housing Sergei Brin&#039;s 767? Can anyone be surprised that the leftist transnationals at Google run their own foreign policy out of Moffett? Get them out, now. And make an example of the director of NASA Ames.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>Whistleblowers have questioned the benefit to the U.S. government from the Google fleet being housed at Moffett Airfield.</cite></p>
<p>Good for Senator Grassley. When I first heard of this deal making years ago I wondered the same thing. What interest can NASA possibly have housing Sergei Brin&#8217;s 767? Can anyone be surprised that the leftist transnationals at Google run their own foreign policy out of Moffett? Get them out, now. And make an example of the director of NASA Ames.</p>
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