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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/05/18/export-control-spaceport-measures-added-to-defense-authorization-bill/#comment-369695</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 15:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DCSCA wrote @ May 26th, 2012 at 1:09 am

That undisclosed overseas location you blog from is looking more and more like Russia the way you gush over Progress, Soyuz and Zond.  Ð¸ÑÐ¿Ñ€Ð°Ð²Ð¸Ñ‚ÑŒ?

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Russian Progress already do this&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

And that&#039;s great for Russia.  Now the U.S. has that capability too - a true American would want that, so where do you stand?

Also, as usual, you don&#039;t understand the technical differences either.

o Dragon has a full-sized hatch for large cargo - Progress doesn&#039;t.

o Dragon can carry large unpressurized cargo - including all the LRU&#039;s to keep the ISS in full operation - Progress can&#039;t.

o Dragon can bring back up to 3kg of cargo to Earth - Progress burns up on re-entry.

o Dragon represents choice - Progress represents a monopoly.

ÐŸÐ¾Ð½Ð¸Ð¼Ð°ÐµÑˆÑŒ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCSCA wrote @ May 26th, 2012 at 1:09 am</p>
<p>That undisclosed overseas location you blog from is looking more and more like Russia the way you gush over Progress, Soyuz and Zond.  Ð¸ÑÐ¿Ñ€Ð°Ð²Ð¸Ñ‚ÑŒ?</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Russian Progress already do this</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s great for Russia.  Now the U.S. has that capability too &#8211; a true American would want that, so where do you stand?</p>
<p>Also, as usual, you don&#8217;t understand the technical differences either.</p>
<p>o Dragon has a full-sized hatch for large cargo &#8211; Progress doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>o Dragon can carry large unpressurized cargo &#8211; including all the LRU&#8217;s to keep the ISS in full operation &#8211; Progress can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>o Dragon can bring back up to 3kg of cargo to Earth &#8211; Progress burns up on re-entry.</p>
<p>o Dragon represents choice &#8211; Progress represents a monopoly.</p>
<p>ÐŸÐ¾Ð½Ð¸Ð¼Ð°ÐµÑˆÑŒ?</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 05:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;SpaceX has been working on perfecting a cargo vehicle that can autonomously deliver pressurized cargo to an exact point in space.&quot;

Russian Progress already do this -- &#039;perfecting&#039; the technical skill set to do it nearly 35 years ago- and can automatically dock w/a LEO space platform, too...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;SpaceX has been working on perfecting a cargo vehicle that can autonomously deliver pressurized cargo to an exact point in space.&#8221;</p>
<p>Russian Progress already do this &#8212; &#8216;perfecting&#8217; the technical skill set to do it nearly 35 years ago- and can automatically dock w/a LEO space platform, too&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 05:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Googaw wrote @ May 23rd, 2012 at 1:27 pm 

Correct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Googaw wrote @ May 23rd, 2012 at 1:27 pm </p>
<p>Correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 21:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is there a natural market for chia pets?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a natural market for chia pets?</p>
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		<title>By: Googaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Googaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 17:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;SpaceX has been working on perfecting a cargo vehicle that can autonomously deliver pressurized cargo to an exact point in space. Donâ€™t you think thatâ€™s a feature that makes them more valuable in the future? &lt;/i&gt;

No.  There is no natural market for this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>SpaceX has been working on perfecting a cargo vehicle that can autonomously deliver pressurized cargo to an exact point in space. Donâ€™t you think thatâ€™s a feature that makes them more valuable in the future? </i></p>
<p>No.  There is no natural market for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/05/18/export-control-spaceport-measures-added-to-defense-authorization-bill/#comment-369329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 02:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Googaw wrote @ May 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 pm

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Alas, it is too bad that for the last year they have been distracted from advancing real space commerce by the byzantine safety dances and other contortions that come with NASA HSF contracting.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

You keep babbling about this, but you have failed to provide any evidence of it.

SpaceX has been working on perfecting a cargo vehicle that can autonomously deliver pressurized cargo to an exact point in space.  Don&#039;t you think that&#039;s a feature that makes them more valuable in the future?  Bigelow would find that valuable, especially since they will be relying on cargo and crew providers that have already proven themselves.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;I hope they mature Falcon 9 to the real business of launching actually useful satellites soon.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

In case you haven&#039;t noticed, they have been working with a customer that has bought 12 launches from them.  Don&#039;t you think that makes that customer important?  You really don&#039;t have much business sense, do you?

Besides, if you had watched the pre-launch briefing that NASA held before the first launch attempt, you would have heard Gwynn Shotwell state what their launch tempo ramp-up was going to be for the next two years - IIRC three more this year, six next year, and one per month the year after that.

Of course you are also ignorant of their manufacturing plans, which calls out for changing production from the current Merlin 1C/Falcon 9 v 1.0 to the Merlin 1D/Falcon v1.1 after flight #5.  That will bring them up to their long-term production configuration, and that has been part of the reason they have not launched during the past year.

You see conspiracies.

I see a well planned business strategy to maximize their learning curve, and maximize profits.  Other than hand-waving and references to witchcraft, so far you have failed to provide any proof otherwise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Googaw wrote @ May 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Alas, it is too bad that for the last year they have been distracted from advancing real space commerce by the byzantine safety dances and other contortions that come with NASA HSF contracting.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>You keep babbling about this, but you have failed to provide any evidence of it.</p>
<p>SpaceX has been working on perfecting a cargo vehicle that can autonomously deliver pressurized cargo to an exact point in space.  Don&#8217;t you think that&#8217;s a feature that makes them more valuable in the future?  Bigelow would find that valuable, especially since they will be relying on cargo and crew providers that have already proven themselves.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>I hope they mature Falcon 9 to the real business of launching actually useful satellites soon.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>In case you haven&#8217;t noticed, they have been working with a customer that has bought 12 launches from them.  Don&#8217;t you think that makes that customer important?  You really don&#8217;t have much business sense, do you?</p>
<p>Besides, if you had watched the pre-launch briefing that NASA held before the first launch attempt, you would have heard Gwynn Shotwell state what their launch tempo ramp-up was going to be for the next two years &#8211; IIRC three more this year, six next year, and one per month the year after that.</p>
<p>Of course you are also ignorant of their manufacturing plans, which calls out for changing production from the current Merlin 1C/Falcon 9 v 1.0 to the Merlin 1D/Falcon v1.1 after flight #5.  That will bring them up to their long-term production configuration, and that has been part of the reason they have not launched during the past year.</p>
<p>You see conspiracies.</p>
<p>I see a well planned business strategy to maximize their learning curve, and maximize profits.  Other than hand-waving and references to witchcraft, so far you have failed to provide any proof otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 02:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A disturbing postscript to MSM news coverage of events spacial today. Most of the U.S. still gets its main dose of national news from the three network newscasts.Williams&#039; NBC report devoted a brief voiceover piece 20 minutes into the newscast then segwayed into a longer report on a wedding in Kansas beset by tornadoes. Human interest junk. CBS&#039;s Pelley was more comprehensive and had his Space X piece much earlier in the newscast and ncluded a recut package from the Musk 60 Minutes piece earlier this year... but Sawyer&#039;s ABC national newscast failed to report on the launch at all. Stunningly bad journalism. PBS&#039;s Newshour wrapped up the night w/an as always solid report by Miles O&#039;Brien, late of CNN&#039;s disbanded technology news department. So if you watch ABC News, you&#039;re lost in space.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A disturbing postscript to MSM news coverage of events spacial today. Most of the U.S. still gets its main dose of national news from the three network newscasts.Williams&#8217; NBC report devoted a brief voiceover piece 20 minutes into the newscast then segwayed into a longer report on a wedding in Kansas beset by tornadoes. Human interest junk. CBS&#8217;s Pelley was more comprehensive and had his Space X piece much earlier in the newscast and ncluded a recut package from the Musk 60 Minutes piece earlier this year&#8230; but Sawyer&#8217;s ABC national newscast failed to report on the launch at all. Stunningly bad journalism. PBS&#8217;s Newshour wrapped up the night w/an as always solid report by Miles O&#8217;Brien, late of CNN&#8217;s disbanded technology news department. So if you watch ABC News, you&#8217;re lost in space.</p>
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		<title>By: BeanCounterfromDownunder</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BeanCounterfromDownunder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 01:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Googaw wrote @ May 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 pm 
If you&#039;re an economist, evidenced by your seemingly vast knowledge of the subject, then you&#039;re a damn good one.  Most economists can&#039;t predict the future either.  The space business is not simply satellites.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Googaw wrote @ May 22nd, 2012 at 8:29 pm<br />
If you&#8217;re an economist, evidenced by your seemingly vast knowledge of the subject, then you&#8217;re a damn good one.  Most economists can&#8217;t predict the future either.  The space business is not simply satellites.</p>
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		<title>By: Googaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Googaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 00:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I congratulate Space-X on another successful flight test of the Falcon 9.  Alas, it is too bad that for the last year they have been distracted from advancing real space commerce by the byzantine safety dances and other contortions that come with NASA HSF contracting. I hope they mature Falcon 9 to the real business of launching actually useful satellites soon.

All this talk about economics as if it only means cost reflects a preposterous misunderstanding of economics.  Economics is first and foremost about value.  Of what value is ISS, and thus its cargo, to humanity?  Almost nil.  It is just another bizarre dead-end project spun off the pages of long-obsolete, but occasionally still entertaining, sci-fi.  Launching worthless cargo at lower cost is still not economical.  Falcon 9 still has a good chance to advance the economics of space development  by launching actually valuable satellites for less cost.  But with Dragon the Space-X crew are contorting themselves into economic pretzels for the sake of long obsolete sci-fi dogmas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I congratulate Space-X on another successful flight test of the Falcon 9.  Alas, it is too bad that for the last year they have been distracted from advancing real space commerce by the byzantine safety dances and other contortions that come with NASA HSF contracting. I hope they mature Falcon 9 to the real business of launching actually useful satellites soon.</p>
<p>All this talk about economics as if it only means cost reflects a preposterous misunderstanding of economics.  Economics is first and foremost about value.  Of what value is ISS, and thus its cargo, to humanity?  Almost nil.  It is just another bizarre dead-end project spun off the pages of long-obsolete, but occasionally still entertaining, sci-fi.  Launching worthless cargo at lower cost is still not economical.  Falcon 9 still has a good chance to advance the economics of space development  by launching actually valuable satellites for less cost.  But with Dragon the Space-X crew are contorting themselves into economic pretzels for the sake of long obsolete sci-fi dogmas.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 23:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coastal Ron wrote @ May 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm 
So you believe  Soyuz and Progress are Model-T&#039;s eh... always a pleasure to see someone slam a partner in an international project.  Bear in mind, Model T&#039;s are quite valuable these days and it&#039;s a credit to their design that they still operate and, of course, were designed to be affordable, operational and deliver the goods. So to, were DC-3&#039;s. Fresh BVDs and freeze-dried dinners are welcomed by hungry astronauts in soiled underwear if they arrive on a Model T, a DC-3, a Progress or a spiffy, shinny electric car-- the objective is to deliver the goods. Progress spacecraft have been doing just that for 34 years to LEO space platforms. Dragon, not so much-- in fact, not at all, yet. But keep pitching redundancy to access a doomed-to-a-Pacific-splash-LEO space platform against a routine, reliable, adaptive and operational system that&#039;s worked for decades. It&#039;s iamusing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coastal Ron wrote @ May 22nd, 2012 at 2:12 pm<br />
So you believe  Soyuz and Progress are Model-T&#8217;s eh&#8230; always a pleasure to see someone slam a partner in an international project.  Bear in mind, Model T&#8217;s are quite valuable these days and it&#8217;s a credit to their design that they still operate and, of course, were designed to be affordable, operational and deliver the goods. So to, were DC-3&#8217;s. Fresh BVDs and freeze-dried dinners are welcomed by hungry astronauts in soiled underwear if they arrive on a Model T, a DC-3, a Progress or a spiffy, shinny electric car&#8211; the objective is to deliver the goods. Progress spacecraft have been doing just that for 34 years to LEO space platforms. Dragon, not so much&#8211; in fact, not at all, yet. But keep pitching redundancy to access a doomed-to-a-Pacific-splash-LEO space platform against a routine, reliable, adaptive and operational system that&#8217;s worked for decades. It&#8217;s iamusing.</p>
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