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	<title>Comments on: A penny for NASA? That&#8217;s what that petition was worth.</title>
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		<title>By: Jakyia</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/06/28/a-penny-for-nasa-thats-what-that-petition-was-worth/#comment-384984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jakyia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 20:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[adamBATTAGLIA  Posted on     whit, your pictures are ubibleevanle. sure, i&#039;m really jealous but also REALLY JEALOUS. congrats on what seems to be a successful trip so far. can&#039;t wait to see the show.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adamBATTAGLIA  Posted on     whit, your pictures are ubibleevanle. sure, i&#8217;m really jealous but also REALLY JEALOUS. congrats on what seems to be a successful trip so far. can&#8217;t wait to see the show.</p>
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		<title>By: chrisopher</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chrisopher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 19:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read these comments and see people saying that they signed the petition and knew it wouldn&#039;t accomplish anything. What kind of crap is that?! It&#039;s a petition; if you thought it wouldn&#039;t do anything you shouldn&#039;t have signed it. It&#039;s that kind of mentality that infects our society today that prevents anything from being reformed. We have turned into a hopeless society which no longer uses initiative. We directly elect members of the house for a reason. If you feel strongly about this topic then make it perfectly clear to those you elect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read these comments and see people saying that they signed the petition and knew it wouldn&#8217;t accomplish anything. What kind of crap is that?! It&#8217;s a petition; if you thought it wouldn&#8217;t do anything you shouldn&#8217;t have signed it. It&#8217;s that kind of mentality that infects our society today that prevents anything from being reformed. We have turned into a hopeless society which no longer uses initiative. We directly elect members of the house for a reason. If you feel strongly about this topic then make it perfectly clear to those you elect.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Aug 2012 04:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we found oil in space, we&#039;d be there in a heartbeat.

That or people without clothes, or worse yet, homosexuals in space. We&#039;d have to go there to &quot;tell them&quot; how wrong they are. And pray for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we found oil in space, we&#8217;d be there in a heartbeat.</p>
<p>That or people without clothes, or worse yet, homosexuals in space. We&#8217;d have to go there to &#8220;tell them&#8221; how wrong they are. And pray for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2012 23:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s incredibly childish to take the White House&#039;s response and think that the Penny4NASA fundraiser is or will be fruitless. We made a splash with the number of signatures and the celebrity support. Now we can turn that splash into a wave. Every movement starts out with a select few who believe in something. You&#039;re all people who know the numbers and research, and you&#039;re the people who should be educating everyone else and pushing this movement to success. Giving up on something you believe in should never be an option.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s incredibly childish to take the White House&#8217;s response and think that the Penny4NASA fundraiser is or will be fruitless. We made a splash with the number of signatures and the celebrity support. Now we can turn that splash into a wave. Every movement starts out with a select few who believe in something. You&#8217;re all people who know the numbers and research, and you&#8217;re the people who should be educating everyone else and pushing this movement to success. Giving up on something you believe in should never be an option.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vladislaw wrote @ June 28th, 2012 at 11:27 pm 

to be fair, I dont think I was suggesting that we build SLS only that 10 billion should build it RGO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vladislaw wrote @ June 28th, 2012 at 11:27 pm </p>
<p>to be fair, I dont think I was suggesting that we build SLS only that 10 billion should build it RGO</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 21:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A penny for NASA? Thatâ€™s what that petition was worth....&quot;


Neil De-Grasse-roots effort. No more, no less, just to telegraph to the powers that be that there&#039;s still public interest- just as broad and shallow as ever. A few weeks ago local California media was reporting kids were quite literally holding bake sales to raise money for NASA exploration. Local news fodder. Quaint, if not sad. Down by the border, the San Diego County Fair is themed w/space this year and the annual Mirimar Air Show this October is cloaked w/a &#039;Celebrating 50 Years of Space Exploration&#039; theme. It&#039;s all for the kiddies, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A penny for NASA? Thatâ€™s what that petition was worth&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neil De-Grasse-roots effort. No more, no less, just to telegraph to the powers that be that there&#8217;s still public interest- just as broad and shallow as ever. A few weeks ago local California media was reporting kids were quite literally holding bake sales to raise money for NASA exploration. Local news fodder. Quaint, if not sad. Down by the border, the San Diego County Fair is themed w/space this year and the annual Mirimar Air Show this October is cloaked w/a &#8216;Celebrating 50 Years of Space Exploration&#8217; theme. It&#8217;s all for the kiddies, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: vulture4</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vulture4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2012 16:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would only quibble at whether there is even a need to upgrade the Delta IV. The main concern is the static load design factor for the second stage, which was designed to the DOD spec of 1.25 vs the NASA spec of 1.4. The fact is that both of these numbers are arbitrary. Does the upper stage of an ELV in which each vehicle flies only once, was designed with CAD and has flown multiple times needs already the same degree of overbuilding that was required for the Shuttle orbiter, which carried a crew on its first launch and was designed to make 100 flights, and was designed in the days when computers, such as they were, used punch cards?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would only quibble at whether there is even a need to upgrade the Delta IV. The main concern is the static load design factor for the second stage, which was designed to the DOD spec of 1.25 vs the NASA spec of 1.4. The fact is that both of these numbers are arbitrary. Does the upper stage of an ELV in which each vehicle flies only once, was designed with CAD and has flown multiple times needs already the same degree of overbuilding that was required for the Shuttle orbiter, which carried a crew on its first launch and was designed to make 100 flights, and was designed in the days when computers, such as they were, used punch cards?</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 03:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler wrote:

&lt;I&gt;&quot;or SLS for under 10 billion&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I beg to differ Sir:

For ten billion we could have paid for the upgrades to the Delta IV heavy, the Atlas V and fully funded the Falcon XX. Three heavy lift vehicles and you could launch each of them once for same price as an SLS launch (include the 30-50 billion in development costs).

What a sad day for America .. the day congress voted to fund SLS. The Nation&#039;s drive to space, once again thwarted by Darth Shelby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert G. Oler wrote:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;or SLS for under 10 billion&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I beg to differ Sir:</p>
<p>For ten billion we could have paid for the upgrades to the Delta IV heavy, the Atlas V and fully funded the Falcon XX. Three heavy lift vehicles and you could launch each of them once for same price as an SLS launch (include the 30-50 billion in development costs).</p>
<p>What a sad day for America .. the day congress voted to fund SLS. The Nation&#8217;s drive to space, once again thwarted by Darth Shelby.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Glover</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Glover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2012 01:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Until then, my argument to my members of congress has been the gateway validates and gives purpose to the SLS.&quot;

Let&#039;s find a reason to use the overly expensive system, because they&#039;re going to have it built anyway.

That&#039;s not my idea of an SLS supportive argument, if there is one at all...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Until then, my argument to my members of congress has been the gateway validates and gives purpose to the SLS.&#8221;</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s find a reason to use the overly expensive system, because they&#8217;re going to have it built anyway.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not my idea of an SLS supportive argument, if there is one at all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jun 2012 22:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[common sense wrote @ June 28th, 2012 at 3:00 pm 

any decent manager given a free hand to fire and figuratively hang people who dont perform could have gotten Ares 1 built ...or SLS for under 10 billion...there would be a sad week where many would be on the bricks fired for ineptness but it could have been done RGO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>common sense wrote @ June 28th, 2012 at 3:00 pm </p>
<p>any decent manager given a free hand to fire and figuratively hang people who dont perform could have gotten Ares 1 built &#8230;or SLS for under 10 billion&#8230;there would be a sad week where many would be on the bricks fired for ineptness but it could have been done RGO</p>
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