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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2012/08/14/obama-romney-mars-and-china/#comment-377037</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 19:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[E.P. Grondine wrote @ August 24th, 2012 at 8:21 pm 

Not really. And, of course, they know of Neil Armstrong, who has died today, August 24, 2012.  

God Bless you, Neil. It&#039;s not very often we can say we shared space and time with an individual who will most decidely be remembered  centuries from now, when all the struggles and problems of our times have long faded.  Ad Astra, Neil. Ad Astra. And well done. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.P. Grondine wrote @ August 24th, 2012 at 8:21 pm </p>
<p>Not really. And, of course, they know of Neil Armstrong, who has died today, August 24, 2012.  </p>
<p>God Bless you, Neil. It&#8217;s not very often we can say we shared space and time with an individual who will most decidely be remembered  centuries from now, when all the struggles and problems of our times have long faded.  Ad Astra, Neil. Ad Astra. And well done. </p>
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		<title>By: E.P. Grondine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.P. Grondine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DCSCA - 

From what I&#039;ve seen, Buzz Aldrin is about the only astronaut most 20 somethings know of, and they think he&#039;s pretty cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCSCA &#8211; </p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen, Buzz Aldrin is about the only astronaut most 20 somethings know of, and they think he&#8217;s pretty cool.</p>
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		<title>By: E.P. Grondine</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E.P. Grondine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2012 00:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RGO - 

I&#039;ll Have to disagree with you on the ISS.

Given that we could have had DIRECT and two manned launch systems with no disruption to our tech base for less money than was was wasted on the Ares 1, you have to ask what the hell architecture Griffin was thinking about when he chose the Ares 1/Ares5 launchers and their capacities. 

And for all of Griffin&#039;s critical statements over the last couple of years, no journalist has had the either the brains or guts to simply directly question Griffin in detail about his choices then. I suppose that either they know the fan club that is their principal audience, and do not want to offend them in any way, or they are too stupid to know what to ask, how to conduct an interview on a technical topic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RGO &#8211; </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll Have to disagree with you on the ISS.</p>
<p>Given that we could have had DIRECT and two manned launch systems with no disruption to our tech base for less money than was was wasted on the Ares 1, you have to ask what the hell architecture Griffin was thinking about when he chose the Ares 1/Ares5 launchers and their capacities. </p>
<p>And for all of Griffin&#8217;s critical statements over the last couple of years, no journalist has had the either the brains or guts to simply directly question Griffin in detail about his choices then. I suppose that either they know the fan club that is their principal audience, and do not want to offend them in any way, or they are too stupid to know what to ask, how to conduct an interview on a technical topic.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 21:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler wrote @ August 23rd, 2012 at 7:44 pm 

You really are out of the loop. 

www.genecernan.com.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert G. Oler wrote @ August 23rd, 2012 at 7:44 pm </p>
<p>You really are out of the loop. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.genecernan.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.genecernan.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 03:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DCSCA wrote @ August 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Paid for by the generation which launched them.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Not what you originally said - dementia setting in?

But I guess the bottom line is that you really are OK with deficit spending, as long as it&#039;s for things YOU want.  Again, what a hypocrite.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCSCA wrote @ August 23rd, 2012 at 5:01 pm</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Paid for by the generation which launched them.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Not what you originally said &#8211; dementia setting in?</p>
<p>But I guess the bottom line is that you really are OK with deficit spending, as long as it&#8217;s for things YOU want.  Again, what a hypocrite.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2012 01:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Stephen C. Smith wrote @ August 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 am 

&quot;....heâ€™d look like a buffoon to a TV audience that has no idea who he is, nor would they care.&quot;

A postscript. You&#039;re thinking of ol&#039;Buzz Aldrin...  who has excelled at astro-buffoonery amongst the clan by literally w &#039;moonwalking&#039; his way across a Canadian wrestling ring a few years ago and dancing-with-the-stars to a bemused-if-not-befuddled audience of 20-somethings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stephen C. Smith wrote @ August 23rd, 2012 at 6:05 am </p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.heâ€™d look like a buffoon to a TV audience that has no idea who he is, nor would they care.&#8221;</p>
<p>A postscript. You&#8217;re thinking of ol&#8217;Buzz Aldrin&#8230;  who has excelled at astro-buffoonery amongst the clan by literally w &#8216;moonwalking&#8217; his way across a Canadian wrestling ring a few years ago and dancing-with-the-stars to a bemused-if-not-befuddled audience of 20-somethings.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As for Cernan speaking at the GOP convention...LOL

If all they did was say &quot;Gene Cernan is now going to speak&quot; about 99 percent of the delegates would say &quot;what delegation is he from?&quot;  Of course they will have the two minute bio film so by the time its over all the clueless will say &quot;WOW OBAMA SHOULD HAVE NEVER ENDED THE LUNAR MISSIONS&quot;

RGO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for Cernan speaking at the GOP convention&#8230;LOL</p>
<p>If all they did was say &#8220;Gene Cernan is now going to speak&#8221; about 99 percent of the delegates would say &#8220;what delegation is he from?&#8221;  Of course they will have the two minute bio film so by the time its over all the clueless will say &#8220;WOW OBAMA SHOULD HAVE NEVER ENDED THE LUNAR MISSIONS&#8221;</p>
<p>RGO</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 23:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[E.P. Grondine wrote @ August 23rd, 2012 at 1:49 pm



We still donâ€™t know what Griffin had in mind for the ARES 5.&quot;

I am pretty sure Griffin didnt have a clue either.

The right wing of the GOP (or we could just say the &quot;GOP&quot; there is no real middle or left wing left...grin) is big on building things, big on starting things but small on finishing them...particularly in space or defense efforts...

AresV was unaffordable even if it was given to us...and there are no real plans for SLS which is about the same price, there is no real use for the space station; it started under Reagan but really all during Bush43 as it was ending it was kind of &quot;wow got er done&quot; sort of thing with no real clue as &quot;what do we do with it&quot;

RGO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.P. Grondine wrote @ August 23rd, 2012 at 1:49 pm</p>
<p>We still donâ€™t know what Griffin had in mind for the ARES 5.&#8221;</p>
<p>I am pretty sure Griffin didnt have a clue either.</p>
<p>The right wing of the GOP (or we could just say the &#8220;GOP&#8221; there is no real middle or left wing left&#8230;grin) is big on building things, big on starting things but small on finishing them&#8230;particularly in space or defense efforts&#8230;</p>
<p>AresV was unaffordable even if it was given to us&#8230;and there are no real plans for SLS which is about the same price, there is no real use for the space station; it started under Reagan but really all during Bush43 as it was ending it was kind of &#8220;wow got er done&#8221; sort of thing with no real clue as &#8220;what do we do with it&#8221;</p>
<p>RGO</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 22:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[E.P. Grondine wrote @ August 23rd, 2012 at 1:39 pm 

â€œLike Sherman through Atlantaâ€ â€“ shesh&#039;

Yeah, he said it during some early shuttle countdown coverage. REynolds reigned him in fast.  ABC News gave Cernan a shot at a few solo on air packages, but they weren&#039;t al lthat smooth. He needed the give and take- usually best quipping w/Lynn Sherr or Koppel. Less so w/t late Bergman, who often chimed with corrective, if not self-agrandising tedium. Eventually, 80&#039;s era ABC brass moved Bergman  off camera on set- then off set completely, relegating him to reportign location packages... then into video oblivion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E.P. Grondine wrote @ August 23rd, 2012 at 1:39 pm </p>
<p>â€œLike Sherman through Atlantaâ€ â€“ shesh&#8217;</p>
<p>Yeah, he said it during some early shuttle countdown coverage. REynolds reigned him in fast.  ABC News gave Cernan a shot at a few solo on air packages, but they weren&#8217;t al lthat smooth. He needed the give and take- usually best quipping w/Lynn Sherr or Koppel. Less so w/t late Bergman, who often chimed with corrective, if not self-agrandising tedium. Eventually, 80&#8217;s era ABC brass moved Bergman  off camera on set- then off set completely, relegating him to reportign location packages&#8230; then into video oblivion.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Coastal Ron wrote @ August 22nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm 

&quot;[Cernan] has lost his grip on reality. Which come to think of it, makes him quite qualified to be a speaker at the Republican convention..&quot;

In other words Apollo caboose has loco-motive, eh.  

Except he doesn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Coastal Ron wrote @ August 22nd, 2012 at 3:28 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;[Cernan] has lost his grip on reality. Which come to think of it, makes him quite qualified to be a speaker at the Republican convention..&#8221;</p>
<p>In other words Apollo caboose has loco-motive, eh.  </p>
<p>Except he doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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