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	<title>Comments on: Bill to rename NASA Dryden after Neil Armstrong dies in Senate</title>
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		<title>By: pathfinder_01</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pathfinder_01]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[â€œIt is inaccessible while being scientifically worthless.â€

Actually the ISS is accessible to most of the worldâ€™s launch sites. The shuttle had an issues because it lugs a lot of dead mass up with it on every flight and so took a hit to get to the ISS(other rockets leaving KSC simply drop their fairings to reduce the amount of dead mass being lugged up and the commercial crew craft/cargo craft are much lighter than the shuttle).  Even then Russia is not capable of heading to a 28.5 orbit and so the shuttle had to accommodate. 

28.5 degrees just allows for the maximum amount of mass to be launched from the cape and is a good orbit for going to the moon but 51.6 isnâ€™t impossible(Russia planned to go to the moon from that orbit and if your desitnation is l1/L2 it will cost about the same amount of delta V to leave LEO regardless of inclination).  One nice benefit from ending the shuttle is that the ISS is now is an higher orbit and needs less reboosting/refueling whereas before the ISS had to be kept in a lower orbit to allow the Shuttle to get to it.  The higher the orbit the less drag the ISS encounters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œIt is inaccessible while being scientifically worthless.â€</p>
<p>Actually the ISS is accessible to most of the worldâ€™s launch sites. The shuttle had an issues because it lugs a lot of dead mass up with it on every flight and so took a hit to get to the ISS(other rockets leaving KSC simply drop their fairings to reduce the amount of dead mass being lugged up and the commercial crew craft/cargo craft are much lighter than the shuttle).  Even then Russia is not capable of heading to a 28.5 orbit and so the shuttle had to accommodate. </p>
<p>28.5 degrees just allows for the maximum amount of mass to be launched from the cape and is a good orbit for going to the moon but 51.6 isnâ€™t impossible(Russia planned to go to the moon from that orbit and if your desitnation is l1/L2 it will cost about the same amount of delta V to leave LEO regardless of inclination).  One nice benefit from ending the shuttle is that the ISS is now is an higher orbit and needs less reboosting/refueling whereas before the ISS had to be kept in a lower orbit to allow the Shuttle to get to it.  The higher the orbit the less drag the ISS encounters.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 20:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I agree with Oler. ISS was placed in the worst orbit imaginable. It is inaccessible while being scientifically worthles&quot;

you might agree with me on the L2 platform but I did not say what you are attributing to me about the ISS orbit...It is not in the worst orbit imaginable.  dont be goofy RGO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I agree with Oler. ISS was placed in the worst orbit imaginable. It is inaccessible while being scientifically worthles&#8221;</p>
<p>you might agree with me on the L2 platform but I did not say what you are attributing to me about the ISS orbit&#8230;It is not in the worst orbit imaginable.  dont be goofy RGO</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 04:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[amightywind bemoaned:

&quot;&lt;i&gt;It is inaccessible while being scientifically worthless.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Golly, you mean we haven&#039;t been able to access the ISS since it&#039;s been put up?

As to &quot;scientifically worthless&quot; because of the orbit, you&#039;re being a little nebulous.  The ISS is in LEO, and though the inclination requires a little more energy to reach than the inclination of Cape Canaveral (51.6 vs 28.5 degrees), it&#039;s still in LEO moving freely through space.  What&#039;s the diff?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amightywind bemoaned:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>It is inaccessible while being scientifically worthless.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Golly, you mean we haven&#8217;t been able to access the ISS since it&#8217;s been put up?</p>
<p>As to &#8220;scientifically worthless&#8221; because of the orbit, you&#8217;re being a little nebulous.  The ISS is in LEO, and though the inclination requires a little more energy to reach than the inclination of Cape Canaveral (51.6 vs 28.5 degrees), it&#8217;s still in LEO moving freely through space.  What&#8217;s the diff?</p>
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		<title>By: amightywind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amightywind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 18:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Oler. ISS was placed in the worst orbit imaginable. It is inaccessible while being scientifically worthless. Of course our Russian partners appreciate it. I am amazed (but not surprised) that Obama&#039;s NASA toadies came up with an even worse one at L2.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Oler. ISS was placed in the worst orbit imaginable. It is inaccessible while being scientifically worthless. Of course our Russian partners appreciate it. I am amazed (but not surprised) that Obama&#8217;s NASA toadies came up with an even worse one at L2.</p>
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		<title>By: common sense</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 05:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Armstrong attended the New Suborbital Research Conference last year where he discussed X-15 and was quite enthusiastic about suborbital flight research. He never mentioned Appollo that I can recall. The attendees gave him a very warm reception as well. 

As usual you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talking about and a new year won&#039;t change it I am afraid.

Oh well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Armstrong attended the New Suborbital Research Conference last year where he discussed X-15 and was quite enthusiastic about suborbital flight research. He never mentioned Appollo that I can recall. The attendees gave him a very warm reception as well. </p>
<p>As usual you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talking about and a new year won&#8217;t change it I am afraid.</p>
<p>Oh well.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert G. Oler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 04:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; Of course weâ€™d have to commit to those projects first but thatâ€™s why we should do rather than come up with aimless, disparate goals.&quot;

but of course the L2 station is by definition an aimless, disparate goal...

no one can name a single thing it does that a communications relay satellite (for under 1/2 billion) or the ISS cannot do.

Bhueller Armstrong, anyone RGO]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Of course weâ€™d have to commit to those projects first but thatâ€™s why we should do rather than come up with aimless, disparate goals.&#8221;</p>
<p>but of course the L2 station is by definition an aimless, disparate goal&#8230;</p>
<p>no one can name a single thing it does that a communications relay satellite (for under 1/2 billion) or the ISS cannot do.</p>
<p>Bhueller Armstrong, anyone RGO</p>
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		<title>By: amightywind</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amightywind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 02:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Armstrong would turn in his grave to have his good name usurped by these suborbital side show circus acts. I would rather see his statue on the Mall.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Armstrong would turn in his grave to have his good name usurped by these suborbital side show circus acts. I would rather see his statue on the Mall.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 00:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That body has been full of dead heads for decades. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That body has been full of dead heads for decades. <img src="http://www.spacepolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 00:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;ll get a postage stamp. And given the modesty of the man, he&#039;d be most appreciative of same. 

Apollo 11 was a team effort and has been honored by the United States in every fashion beyond parades and dinners; from medallions produced by the US Mint in precious medals to $1 coinage to numerious philatelic commerations by the USPS. The surviving flight hardware is on display in the NASM in Washington, where curious citizens can even touch a fragment of Luna. Indeed, by the 25th anniversary, the flight crew themselves, although always appreciative, made noise of tiring of being called upon to celebrate past accomplishmens while the country sat upon its Apollo laurels. As Michael Collins said in July, 1989, &quot;It&#039;s time to get going again!&quot; 

Naming a flight test facility is a modest postscript for an aviator engineer; a test pilot who, through circumstances and timing, was afforded the opportunity to command the first lunar landing. It is more for the acknowledgement within the aviation community than for national recognition. And when asked, Neil routinely placed his Apollo flight with in the context of the overall evolution of aviation. 

Given Neil Armstrong&#039;s persona, he&#039;d be equally sppreciative if a glider port or a new municipal airport in his native Ohio bore his name. But mostly, the best way to honor Neil Armstrong would be to energize America&#039;s manned spaceflight program; a national investment that took him to the edge of space in the X-15, LEO aboard Gemini VIII and to the moon as CDR of Apollo 11. 

FDR routinely said he didn&#039;t want any big memorial when he died. Instead, the nation deferred and in the decades since his passing created am enduring albeit less ostentatious &#039;memorial&#039; Americans carry in their pockets: the Roosevelt Dime. 

The Senate will get to it. Addressing the challenges of the future are more pressing than acknowledging, yet again, the achievements of the past.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;ll get a postage stamp. And given the modesty of the man, he&#8217;d be most appreciative of same. </p>
<p>Apollo 11 was a team effort and has been honored by the United States in every fashion beyond parades and dinners; from medallions produced by the US Mint in precious medals to $1 coinage to numerious philatelic commerations by the USPS. The surviving flight hardware is on display in the NASM in Washington, where curious citizens can even touch a fragment of Luna. Indeed, by the 25th anniversary, the flight crew themselves, although always appreciative, made noise of tiring of being called upon to celebrate past accomplishmens while the country sat upon its Apollo laurels. As Michael Collins said in July, 1989, &#8220;It&#8217;s time to get going again!&#8221; </p>
<p>Naming a flight test facility is a modest postscript for an aviator engineer; a test pilot who, through circumstances and timing, was afforded the opportunity to command the first lunar landing. It is more for the acknowledgement within the aviation community than for national recognition. And when asked, Neil routinely placed his Apollo flight with in the context of the overall evolution of aviation. </p>
<p>Given Neil Armstrong&#8217;s persona, he&#8217;d be equally sppreciative if a glider port or a new municipal airport in his native Ohio bore his name. But mostly, the best way to honor Neil Armstrong would be to energize America&#8217;s manned spaceflight program; a national investment that took him to the edge of space in the X-15, LEO aboard Gemini VIII and to the moon as CDR of Apollo 11. </p>
<p>FDR routinely said he didn&#8217;t want any big memorial when he died. Instead, the nation deferred and in the decades since his passing created am enduring albeit less ostentatious &#8216;memorial&#8217; Americans carry in their pockets: the Roosevelt Dime. </p>
<p>The Senate will get to it. Addressing the challenges of the future are more pressing than acknowledging, yet again, the achievements of the past.</p>
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		<title>By: common sense</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 23:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely right and it sounds better too. Oh well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely right and it sounds better too. Oh well.</p>
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