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	<title>Comments on: House Science Committee to hear about &#8220;threats from space&#8221; (Updated)</title>
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		<title>By: Rick Boozer</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/03/05/house-science-committee-to-hear-about-threats-from-space/#comment-404072</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Boozer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oops, instead of &quot;radio-carbon dates from T-Rex data&quot;, I meant to say &quot;radio-carbon dates from Triceratops and Hadrosaur data&quot;.  I&#039;m in such a rush because of my own time-consuming astrophysics research and thus often don&#039;t really don&#039;t have time to respond as carefully as I would like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, instead of &#8220;radio-carbon dates from T-Rex data&#8221;, I meant to say &#8220;radio-carbon dates from Triceratops and Hadrosaur data&#8221;.  I&#8217;m in such a rush because of my own time-consuming astrophysics research and thus often don&#8217;t really don&#8217;t have time to respond as carefully as I would like.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Boozer</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/03/05/house-science-committee-to-hear-about-threats-from-space/#comment-404067</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Boozer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;&quot;Maybe congress et al. should cross check this latest data by repeating the C-14 experiments on dinosaur bones in bone repositories and fossil wood in magma flows to see who is right&quot;&lt;/I&gt;
Reputable scientists don&#039;t use C-14 to check the age of rocks that old.  It&#039;s half-life is only 5,730 years, so you can only get accurate ages with that method to around 60,000 after which the amount of C-14 is immeasurable.
&lt;b&gt;For that reason, no one uses C-14 for dating dinosaur fossils &lt;i&gt;because the much more reliable uranium/lead, Samarium-neodymium, and Potassium-argon methods yield results that are consistent with each other.&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/b&gt;  The only true part of the first paper you cite is that Mary H. Schweitzer et al and other researchers found callogen in dinosaur bones, but she herself and those other scientists state radioactive dating times (NOT using C-14) that are much older than the paper that you cite claims.  In the &lt;b&gt;very few&lt;/b&gt; cases where C-14 been detected, it has always been shown to come from cross-contamination of the specimen due to sloppy laboratory handling.

Those are not credible peer-reviewed journals that you cite.  Just because those guys &lt;b&gt;say&lt;/b&gt; they got accurate radio-carbon dates from T-Rex data does NOT mean they actually did.  Again, data from other methods shows otherwise.  In fact, the online publication it appears in (www.sciencevsevolution.org) is put out by religious fanatics who cherry pick their facts to manufacture so-called evidence supporting their beliefs.  That is not science.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Maybe congress et al. should cross check this latest data by repeating the C-14 experiments on dinosaur bones in bone repositories and fossil wood in magma flows to see who is right&#8221;</i><br />
Reputable scientists don&#8217;t use C-14 to check the age of rocks that old.  It&#8217;s half-life is only 5,730 years, so you can only get accurate ages with that method to around 60,000 after which the amount of C-14 is immeasurable.<br />
<b>For that reason, no one uses C-14 for dating dinosaur fossils <i>because the much more reliable uranium/lead, Samarium-neodymium, and Potassium-argon methods yield results that are consistent with each other.</i></b>  The only true part of the first paper you cite is that Mary H. Schweitzer et al and other researchers found callogen in dinosaur bones, but she herself and those other scientists state radioactive dating times (NOT using C-14) that are much older than the paper that you cite claims.  In the <b>very few</b> cases where C-14 been detected, it has always been shown to come from cross-contamination of the specimen due to sloppy laboratory handling.</p>
<p>Those are not credible peer-reviewed journals that you cite.  Just because those guys <b>say</b> they got accurate radio-carbon dates from T-Rex data does NOT mean they actually did.  Again, data from other methods shows otherwise.  In fact, the online publication it appears in (www.sciencevsevolution.org) is put out by religious fanatics who cherry pick their facts to manufacture so-called evidence supporting their beliefs.  That is not science.</p>
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		<title>By: H. Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/03/05/house-science-committee-to-hear-about-threats-from-space/#comment-403156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[H. Miller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe there is more urgency to promote mitigation efforts against NEO&#039;s then has been discussed here or by congress. 

Are any of you commentators aware that maybe those 66 million years between dinosaur extinction by asteroid(s) may not exist? For the evidence view the technical paper published in a book in Italian by the National Research Council of Italy [in Italian]; in English the 20 page technical paper is at http://www.sciencevsevolution.org/Holzschuh.htm which was a news item in late 2009 at http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/12/italy-science-a.html. &quot;Loonies?&quot; 

In 1925 dinosaurs were claimed to have become extinct 12 Ma BP and then later when radiometric dating methods were accepted the extinction was moved up 5x to 65 Ma BP. So, will the real &quot;loonies&quot; please step forward?  

Maybe congress et al. should cross check this latest data by repeating the C-14 experiments on dinosaur bones in bone repositories and fossil wood in magma flows to see who is right. Me thinks that mankind has a right to know and NASA and the NSF have a duty to find out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there is more urgency to promote mitigation efforts against NEO&#8217;s then has been discussed here or by congress. </p>
<p>Are any of you commentators aware that maybe those 66 million years between dinosaur extinction by asteroid(s) may not exist? For the evidence view the technical paper published in a book in Italian by the National Research Council of Italy [in Italian]; in English the 20 page technical paper is at <a href="http://www.sciencevsevolution.org/Holzschuh.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencevsevolution.org/Holzschuh.htm</a> which was a news item in late 2009 at <a href="http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/12/italy-science-a.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2009/12/italy-science-a.html</a>. &#8220;Loonies?&#8221; </p>
<p>In 1925 dinosaurs were claimed to have become extinct 12 Ma BP and then later when radiometric dating methods were accepted the extinction was moved up 5x to 65 Ma BP. So, will the real &#8220;loonies&#8221; please step forward?  </p>
<p>Maybe congress et al. should cross check this latest data by repeating the C-14 experiments on dinosaur bones in bone repositories and fossil wood in magma flows to see who is right. Me thinks that mankind has a right to know and NASA and the NSF have a duty to find out.</p>
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		<title>By: NeilShipley</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/03/05/house-science-committee-to-hear-about-threats-from-space/#comment-402436</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NeilShipley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 06:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This probably comes as a shock but SpaceX is well on the way to becoming the &#039;flagship of the U.S. space capability&#039; and quite likely for &#039;decades to come&#039;&#039; if they maintain their current organisational ethos.  What defines them from the traditional providers is their agile and innovative behaviour which is rooted not in their engineering capability but in the organisation itself right from leadership style through to hiring strategies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This probably comes as a shock but SpaceX is well on the way to becoming the &#8216;flagship of the U.S. space capability&#8217; and quite likely for &#8216;decades to come&#8221; if they maintain their current organisational ethos.  What defines them from the traditional providers is their agile and innovative behaviour which is rooted not in their engineering capability but in the organisation itself right from leadership style through to hiring strategies.</p>
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		<title>By: E. P. Grondine</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/03/05/house-science-committee-to-hear-about-threats-from-space/#comment-402403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E. P. Grondine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 02:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Hiram - 

I prefer to keep DoD focused tightly on more earth bound threats.

While at some point in the future DoE will likely be responsible for both non-nuclear as well as nuclear means of diversion, the problem now is timely detection and warning, and that is going to require space based sensors.

I have heard this kind of rationalizing before. What do you have against NASA money being spent on anything useful?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hiram &#8211; </p>
<p>I prefer to keep DoD focused tightly on more earth bound threats.</p>
<p>While at some point in the future DoE will likely be responsible for both non-nuclear as well as nuclear means of diversion, the problem now is timely detection and warning, and that is going to require space based sensors.</p>
<p>I have heard this kind of rationalizing before. What do you have against NASA money being spent on anything useful?</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Shipley</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/03/05/house-science-committee-to-hear-about-threats-from-space/#comment-402272</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Shipley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 04:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Prepare to be disappointed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prepare to be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: Hiram</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/03/05/house-science-committee-to-hear-about-threats-from-space/#comment-402234</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hiram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Mar 2013 00:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The issue here isn&#039;t interception. DoD knows how to intercept things in deep space quite well. It knows how to intercept things in near space *extraordinarily* well. Clementine was well targeted. The issue is mitigation. SMD has never mitigated anything. 

SMD has DSN? That&#039;s why it&#039;s so well suited to this job? Well gee, DSN represents technology (small signal sensing, RF pointing, etc.) that is better understood by DoD than by NASA. The fact that DoD doesn&#039;t have a big dish is something that is easily remedied. DSN is about vastly more than big dishes.

SMD has (and funds) lots of people who know something about asteroids and comets. That&#039;s probably their major role in effective mitigation. But it isn&#039;t mitigation. 

Nope, you haven&#039;t come close to making a compelling argument why SMD should be responsible for protecting the planet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue here isn&#8217;t interception. DoD knows how to intercept things in deep space quite well. It knows how to intercept things in near space *extraordinarily* well. Clementine was well targeted. The issue is mitigation. SMD has never mitigated anything. </p>
<p>SMD has DSN? That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s so well suited to this job? Well gee, DSN represents technology (small signal sensing, RF pointing, etc.) that is better understood by DoD than by NASA. The fact that DoD doesn&#8217;t have a big dish is something that is easily remedied. DSN is about vastly more than big dishes.</p>
<p>SMD has (and funds) lots of people who know something about asteroids and comets. That&#8217;s probably their major role in effective mitigation. But it isn&#8217;t mitigation. </p>
<p>Nope, you haven&#8217;t come close to making a compelling argument why SMD should be responsible for protecting the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: common sense</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/03/05/house-science-committee-to-hear-about-threats-from-space/#comment-402195</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The problem here is not with my answering your questions, it is with you being able to understand my answers, and the reasons for that have more to do with the science of psychology.&quot;

You know I respect the effort of those who want to get some form of planetary defense system in place, just as much as climate change efforts, etc. But this answer of yours is so plain idiotic. You don&#039;t know who I am and what I do for a living. Yet you are patronizing me. So let me tell you when it comes to psychology you may want to check yourself first. And by the way psychology is not a science. Make an effort. You&#039;re ruining your attempts with obtuseness.

http://philosophynow.org/issues/74/Is_Psychology_Science
&quot;It remains true, however, that a human study such as psychology is not a science in the same sense as physics, because whatever it shares with the scientific method, it also receives essential support from the methods of hermeneutics. Faced with communications, we need to establish the background, likely knowledge and personal motives of the communicator.&quot;

&quot;For example, despite the statements of some here, it has been shown that about 13,000 years ago 95% of the people living in North America were killed by impact.&quot;

Your example is as idiotic as your answer above since I am not one of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The problem here is not with my answering your questions, it is with you being able to understand my answers, and the reasons for that have more to do with the science of psychology.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know I respect the effort of those who want to get some form of planetary defense system in place, just as much as climate change efforts, etc. But this answer of yours is so plain idiotic. You don&#8217;t know who I am and what I do for a living. Yet you are patronizing me. So let me tell you when it comes to psychology you may want to check yourself first. And by the way psychology is not a science. Make an effort. You&#8217;re ruining your attempts with obtuseness.</p>
<p><a href="http://philosophynow.org/issues/74/Is_Psychology_Science" rel="nofollow">http://philosophynow.org/issues/74/Is_Psychology_Science</a><br />
&#8220;It remains true, however, that a human study such as psychology is not a science in the same sense as physics, because whatever it shares with the scientific method, it also receives essential support from the methods of hermeneutics. Faced with communications, we need to establish the background, likely knowledge and personal motives of the communicator.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;For example, despite the statements of some here, it has been shown that about 13,000 years ago 95% of the people living in North America were killed by impact.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your example is as idiotic as your answer above since I am not one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Kugler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/03/05/house-science-committee-to-hear-about-threats-from-space/#comment-402190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Kugler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What ops?  SLS/MPCV development costs so much that there are no &quot;ops&quot; or mission systems in flight development.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What ops?  SLS/MPCV development costs so much that there are no &#8220;ops&#8221; or mission systems in flight development.</p>
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		<title>By: E. P. Grondine</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/03/05/house-science-committee-to-hear-about-threats-from-space/#comment-402184</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E. P. Grondine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem here is not with my answering your questions, it is with you being able to understand my answers, and the reasons for that have more to do with the science of psychology.

For example, despite the statements of some here, it has been shown that about 13,000 years ago 95% of the people living in North America were killed by impact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is not with my answering your questions, it is with you being able to understand my answers, and the reasons for that have more to do with the science of psychology.</p>
<p>For example, despite the statements of some here, it has been shown that about 13,000 years ago 95% of the people living in North America were killed by impact.</p>
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