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	<title>Comments on: New bill would redirect NASA back to the Moon</title>
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		<title>By: Chad Overton</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chad Overton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 22:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You can tell NASA to go anywhere you want. The Moon, asteroids, Mars, L2. But if your not going to back it up with funding you are just wasting everyone&#039;s time. In my estimation (admitedly I am cynical) NASA will continue to go nowhere, regardless of which party is in office. You can underfund every plan, change direction every 4-8 yrs and expect something to happen. 

Btw, Constellation was THE most expensive way to do anything. Definitely not the right way to go.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can tell NASA to go anywhere you want. The Moon, asteroids, Mars, L2. But if your not going to back it up with funding you are just wasting everyone&#8217;s time. In my estimation (admitedly I am cynical) NASA will continue to go nowhere, regardless of which party is in office. You can underfund every plan, change direction every 4-8 yrs and expect something to happen. </p>
<p>Btw, Constellation was THE most expensive way to do anything. Definitely not the right way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Boozer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Boozer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 19:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Matt.  You have it wrong.  What we would like to see is a NASA developed deep space vehicle (similar to Nautilus X) assembled in space with parts brought up via commercial rockets.  You never did understand that even before you took your hiatus.  Building SLS is a &lt;b&gt;waste&lt;/b&gt; of NASA&#039;s talent and resources.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Matt.  You have it wrong.  What we would like to see is a NASA developed deep space vehicle (similar to Nautilus X) assembled in space with parts brought up via commercial rockets.  You never did understand that even before you took your hiatus.  Building SLS is a <b>waste</b> of NASA&#8217;s talent and resources.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Clark</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Clark]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 01:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That lunar outpost study Marcel mentioned is here:

Costs of an International Lunar Base.
Johannes Weppler, Vincent Sabathier, and Ashley Bander September 23, 2009
Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://csis.org/publication/costs-international-lunar-base&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://csis.org/publication/costs-international-lunar-base&lt;/a&gt;

 It estimates 17.6 mT cargo per year delivered to the lunar surface. The &lt;a href=&quot;http://nss.org/settlement/moon/ELA.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Early Lunar Access&lt;/a&gt; proposal delivered 8.5 mT to the lunar surface per launch. So two launches would be about at the yearly amount of this CSIS lunar colony proposal.
 The Early Lunar Access proposal would only require a 52 mT to LEO launcher which could be done by the Falcon Heavy. SpaceX says they will offer the 53 mT Falcon Heavy for $120 million. This would result in sharp cut in the yearly launch costs, perhaps by a factor of 5 to 10.

   Bob Clark]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That lunar outpost study Marcel mentioned is here:</p>
<p>Costs of an International Lunar Base.<br />
Johannes Weppler, Vincent Sabathier, and Ashley Bander September 23, 2009<br />
Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS)<br />
<a href="http://csis.org/publication/costs-international-lunar-base" rel="nofollow">http://csis.org/publication/costs-international-lunar-base</a></p>
<p> It estimates 17.6 mT cargo per year delivered to the lunar surface. The <a href="http://nss.org/settlement/moon/ELA.html" rel="nofollow">Early Lunar Access</a> proposal delivered 8.5 mT to the lunar surface per launch. So two launches would be about at the yearly amount of this CSIS lunar colony proposal.<br />
 The Early Lunar Access proposal would only require a 52 mT to LEO launcher which could be done by the Falcon Heavy. SpaceX says they will offer the 53 mT Falcon Heavy for $120 million. This would result in sharp cut in the yearly launch costs, perhaps by a factor of 5 to 10.</p>
<p>   Bob Clark</p>
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		<title>By: Hiram</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/04/11/new-bill-would-redirect-nasa-back-to-the-moon/#comment-409502</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hiram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 01:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;the Constellation program was going in the right direction until the Norm Augustine commission turned directions&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s a diplomatic way to put it. The Constellation was never going to get where it was going, but at least it was going in the right direction!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the Constellation program was going in the right direction until the Norm Augustine commission turned directions</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a diplomatic way to put it. The Constellation was never going to get where it was going, but at least it was going in the right direction!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/04/11/new-bill-would-redirect-nasa-back-to-the-moon/#comment-409494</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 00:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fantasy, Ron, is NASA flying a commercial vehicle on an exploration mission (which some here cling to as an example for a lunar mission under commercial auspicies). That scenario is politically impossible. 

Remeber the D.C. adage: &quot;The Administration proposes, The Congress Disposes.&quot; See NASA&#039;s original FY 11 budget proposal for an obvious example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantasy, Ron, is NASA flying a commercial vehicle on an exploration mission (which some here cling to as an example for a lunar mission under commercial auspicies). That scenario is politically impossible. </p>
<p>Remeber the D.C. adage: &#8220;The Administration proposes, The Congress Disposes.&#8221; See NASA&#8217;s original FY 11 budget proposal for an obvious example.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Boozer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rick Boozer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You need to read a few NASA, industry, and university studies that say otherwise.  Links have been posted to them here before. I don&#039;t have the time to find them for you and re-post them, but I&#039;m sure there are other people here who will do it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to read a few NASA, industry, and university studies that say otherwise.  Links have been posted to them here before. I don&#8217;t have the time to find them for you and re-post them, but I&#8217;m sure there are other people here who will do it.</p>
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		<title>By: DCSCA</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/04/11/new-bill-would-redirect-nasa-back-to-the-moon/#comment-409328</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DCSCA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 21:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re far behind the core argument, ron. This is another &#039;fitrs and tarts&#039; pitch. this perios of &#039;free drifyt&#039; is actually a crossroads for U.S. space policy. You clamor cor commercialism which is inevitably doomed to LEO ops. But for projects of scale, the need for the United States to articulate a sound rationale for HSF is needed. It has nver had one and given the natire of it&#039;s quixotic society and short term attention span, it may never take root.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re far behind the core argument, ron. This is another &#8216;fitrs and tarts&#8217; pitch. this perios of &#8216;free drifyt&#8217; is actually a crossroads for U.S. space policy. You clamor cor commercialism which is inevitably doomed to LEO ops. But for projects of scale, the need for the United States to articulate a sound rationale for HSF is needed. It has nver had one and given the natire of it&#8217;s quixotic society and short term attention span, it may never take root.</p>
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		<title>By: Grandpa Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/04/11/new-bill-would-redirect-nasa-back-to-the-moon/#comment-409293</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grandpa Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YES... BRING BACK CONSTELLATION. 

IMHO, the Space-Xâ€™s, Orbital Scienceâ€™s and other commercial-guys are not ready for moon walking this decade.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES&#8230; BRING BACK CONSTELLATION. </p>
<p>IMHO, the Space-Xâ€™s, Orbital Scienceâ€™s and other commercial-guys are not ready for moon walking this decade.</p>
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		<title>By: Grandpa Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grandpa Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say... Is Flash Gordon still kicking. He, Buck along with Buzz (Light-year) Adrin might be able to work out a plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say&#8230; Is Flash Gordon still kicking. He, Buck along with Buzz (Light-year) Adrin might be able to work out a plan.</p>
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		<title>By: JimNobles</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/04/11/new-bill-would-redirect-nasa-back-to-the-moon/#comment-409275</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JimNobles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Apr 2013 13:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the actual audio of the Knapp/Bigelow interview that Knapp refers to in his article. Some quite extraordinary things are stated. 

If even part of it is true then DCSCA and a few others need to keep their Nitro tablets handy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycj-0duSAxY&amp;feature=player_embedded#!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the actual audio of the Knapp/Bigelow interview that Knapp refers to in his article. Some quite extraordinary things are stated. </p>
<p>If even part of it is true then DCSCA and a few others need to keep their Nitro tablets handy&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycj-0duSAxY&#038;feature=player_embedded#" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycj-0duSAxY&#038;feature=player_embedded#</a>!</p>
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