Comments on: Bolden: the path to Mars requires commercial crew and SLS, but not the Moon http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway... Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:35:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38 By: Ameriman http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/#comment-415968 Wed, 29 May 2013 15:40:28 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=6393#comment-415968 Space exploration is incredibly difficult, very expensive,
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It is for bloated, top-heavy, incompetent, pork driven Nasa…

Not so hard for innovative, efficient, spirited American private enterprise like SpaceX.

]]> By: Ameriman http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/#comment-415967 Wed, 29 May 2013 15:37:44 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=6393#comment-415967 The profit motive is what’s going to drive space exploration, not some abstract ideal of “adventure” or “the human spirit”.
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History couldn’t disagree more.
‘profit’ didn’t drive the Wright brothers to Kitty Hawk.. human spirit did.
‘profit’ didn’t drive Lindberg or the men who backed/funded the Spirit of St Louis.. Human Spirit did.
American private enterprise developed Aviation.. and 50 years after the Wright Brothers, tens of thousands of Americans flew worldwide affordably..

But our corrupt, greedy, parasitic Federal Govt has monopolized US space flight… and 50 years after John Glenn, only a couple hundred Govt selected Americans have flown in space, at over $1 billion taxpayer $s each…

Human spirit, free enterprise drives us forward… Govt is the corrupt, greedy, incompetent force holding us back.

]]> By: Ameriman http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/#comment-415961 Wed, 29 May 2013 14:44:40 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=6393#comment-415961 Did I ever say Boeing *cannot* build a rocket?
But enlighten me how you build a rocket with no money?
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While Nasa (and Boeing) were blowing $20 billion on the failed/cancelled constellation, SpaceX produced vastly superior boosters/capsules for only $300 million…

Nasa is shoveling more earmarked pork to SLS/Orion this year to ‘big space’ legacy shuttle suppliers…than it has in total to SpaceX.. including the 12 flight resupply mission..
So SpaceX is punished for it’s brilliant success… and Nasa and it’s pork recipients are rewarded for incompetence/waste.

]]> By: Ameriman http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/#comment-415959 Wed, 29 May 2013 14:27:23 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=6393#comment-415959 We’ve had American’s constantly in space now for 12. 5 years – a record – and you say we are in a lull?
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The Mercury/Gemini/Apollo astronauts risked their lives to ‘push the envelope’… advance space science, technology, exploration…

Space Shuttle and ISS ‘astros’ are spam-in-the-can joyriding human cannonballs… flagpole sitters costing taxpayres over $1 billion per… risking their lives in a Nasa jobs program, with near zero return of space science, exploration, technology… doing what robot craft could do better for 10 times less money…. in the case of the Shuttle, hauling freight up and garbage back.

]]> By: Ameriman http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/#comment-415958 Wed, 29 May 2013 14:21:52 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=6393#comment-415958 Commercial Space IS costing the taxpayer.
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The entire 12 flight SpaceX supply contract cost less than a single Nasa shuttle flight.

]]> By: Nathan Johnson http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/#comment-414655 Wed, 22 May 2013 12:11:46 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=6393#comment-414655 You are a very smart person!Hello.This post was extremely remarkable, especially because I was searching for thoughts on this topic last Sunday.watch

]]> By: Lyle Upson. http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/#comment-413726 Sat, 18 May 2013 06:19:10 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=6393#comment-413726 actually, I like the idea of and am very interested in, the lasso mission … I also accept that USA govt wants their SLS, so I will not be whinging, rather hoping the public model is useful, which is likely

]]> By: Rick Boozer http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/#comment-413466 Thu, 16 May 2013 16:59:10 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=6393#comment-413466 Guys, logic is not Chris’s strong suit. He just doesn’t get that SLS will never be finished, so wanting that when he desires to go to the Moon is just stupid. He doesn’t understand that lowering costs to LEO will lead to lowering costs to go to the Moon (since just getting to LEO is now a large part of the cost). When launch costs get low enough to where some organization can also afford to both build a lander and send it to the moon with passengers, Americans will return to the Moon. It just may not be NASA. But Chris would rather dream impossible dreams than accept a reality where going back to the Moon is done any other way than the way he wants.

]]> By: Dave Hall http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/#comment-413428 Thu, 16 May 2013 14:50:00 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=6393#comment-413428 @JimNobles

Chris Castro said: But the real bad thing with the space entrepreneurs is that their ambitions take us nowhere but Low Earth Orbit!

Well, that’s a clear and obvious falsehood.

My near identical response was a fluke. No intention to be rude or anything.

]]> By: Dave Hall http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/07/bolden-the-path-to-mars-requires-commercial-crew-and-sls-but-not-the-moon/#comment-413422 Thu, 16 May 2013 13:33:16 +0000 http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=6393#comment-413422 But the real bad thing with the space entrepreneurs is that their ambitions take us nowhere but Low Earth Orbit!

Well, that’s just plain incorrect. Elon Musk has made clear that his ambition is to reach Mars in 12-15 years. I’d say that was fanstastical if it were not for the wealth he is creating with Tesla (the stock price has recently doubled thanks to their first profitable quarter). In a decade he may just be in a position to fund a first mission philantropically. Better than fiction.

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