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		<title>By: JimNobles</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/16/hearings-commercial-space-today-mars-next-week/#comment-414230</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JimNobles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 17:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;cite&gt;Ignorant, Squyres is not.&lt;/cite&gt;

If he&#039;s ignorant about anything concerning heavy lift it&#039;s about the chances that SLS actually has of becoming an asset to the American space program.]]></description>
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<cite>Ignorant, Squyres is not.</cite></p>
<p>If he&#8217;s ignorant about anything concerning heavy lift it&#8217;s about the chances that SLS actually has of becoming an asset to the American space program.</p>
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		<title>By: JimNobles</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/16/hearings-commercial-space-today-mars-next-week/#comment-414228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JimNobles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 17:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guest, I don&#039;t know what you&#039;ve got or what you haven&#039;t got as far as your proposal goes. Post a link and live with the consequences. As it is now you look like a phoney. Post a link and let the jackals have a go at it. Maybe you have something, maybe you don&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guest, I don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;ve got or what you haven&#8217;t got as far as your proposal goes. Post a link and live with the consequences. As it is now you look like a phoney. Post a link and let the jackals have a go at it. Maybe you have something, maybe you don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: common sense</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/16/hearings-commercial-space-today-mars-next-week/#comment-414088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2013 00:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know where to find the &quot;Guest&quot; proposal...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know where to find the &#8220;Guest&#8221; proposal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hiram</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/16/hearings-commercial-space-today-mars-next-week/#comment-414028</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hiram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 18:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You do understand that Senate Commerce now archives hearing videos on their website. The House has done this for a while, but the Senate only recently. Our Congress is moving into the 20th century! (Although we&#039;re now in the 21st ... so be it.)

See http://tinyurl.com/laz5bxv . Hearing starts at about 45:00.

Edited fluff?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do understand that Senate Commerce now archives hearing videos on their website. The House has done this for a while, but the Senate only recently. Our Congress is moving into the 20th century! (Although we&#8217;re now in the 21st &#8230; so be it.)</p>
<p>See <a href="http://tinyurl.com/laz5bxv" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/laz5bxv</a> . Hearing starts at about 45:00.</p>
<p>Edited fluff?</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/16/hearings-commercial-space-today-mars-next-week/#comment-414025</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 17:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris Castro said:

&quot;&lt;i&gt;I just want to see American astronauts do something more than bus-riding around in LEO&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

If you actually looked to see what was happening on the ISS, then you wouldn&#039;t call it &quot;bus riding&quot;.

Real science is being done on the ISS, and it&#039;s the kind of science that is REQUIRED if we are to do anything more than Flags &amp; Footprint type exploration.

Or is that all you want to do?  Flags &amp; Footprint trips to the Moon?  Pick up a few rocks, hit a few golf balls?

We don&#039;t know how to keep humans healthy in a zero-G environment long enough to successfully complete a trip to Mars - going to Mars before we know how to keep people alive and well is a waste of money.

You are too shortsighted Chris.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Castro said:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>I just want to see American astronauts do something more than bus-riding around in LEO</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>If you actually looked to see what was happening on the ISS, then you wouldn&#8217;t call it &#8220;bus riding&#8221;.</p>
<p>Real science is being done on the ISS, and it&#8217;s the kind of science that is REQUIRED if we are to do anything more than Flags &amp; Footprint type exploration.</p>
<p>Or is that all you want to do?  Flags &amp; Footprint trips to the Moon?  Pick up a few rocks, hit a few golf balls?</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t know how to keep humans healthy in a zero-G environment long enough to successfully complete a trip to Mars &#8211; going to Mars before we know how to keep people alive and well is a waste of money.</p>
<p>You are too shortsighted Chris.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Castro</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/16/hearings-commercial-space-today-mars-next-week/#comment-413984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Castro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 May 2013 10:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Coastal Ron,....I just want to see American astronauts do something more than bus-riding around in LEO!! Why, oh why do the Mars zealots always want the &#039;easy way out&#039;, by way of even MORE going around in circles, and even MORE &quot;analog base&quot; testing in the Utah desert/Ellesmere Island/Antarctica??! From the Moon enthusiast&#039;s perspective, it looks like it is THEY who have lost the nerve to really do the brave stuff!! Low Earth Orbit is not only very dull &amp; boring, it is also way too safe &amp; easy!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Coastal Ron,&#8230;.I just want to see American astronauts do something more than bus-riding around in LEO!! Why, oh why do the Mars zealots always want the &#8216;easy way out&#8217;, by way of even MORE going around in circles, and even MORE &#8220;analog base&#8221; testing in the Utah desert/Ellesmere Island/Antarctica??! From the Moon enthusiast&#8217;s perspective, it looks like it is THEY who have lost the nerve to really do the brave stuff!! Low Earth Orbit is not only very dull &amp; boring, it is also way too safe &amp; easy!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 15:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris Castro said:

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Such a mission flight plan, would be an ideal technology-demonstrator.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

No need to send it in orbit around the Moon Chris, we can just send it up to orbit the Earth for as long as you want, then send up a Commercial Crew vehicle to rendezvous with it to check it out and bring it back.

You are always trying to over-complicate things...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Castro said:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Such a mission flight plan, would be an ideal technology-demonstrator.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>No need to send it in orbit around the Moon Chris, we can just send it up to orbit the Earth for as long as you want, then send up a Commercial Crew vehicle to rendezvous with it to check it out and bring it back.</p>
<p>You are always trying to over-complicate things&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/05/16/hearings-commercial-space-today-mars-next-week/#comment-413903</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 15:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DCSCA opined:

&quot;&lt;i&gt;...the least expensive way to â€˜be in spaceâ€™ is to contract for seats on the operational Soyuz for the rest of the decade...&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Listen Putin-boi, unlike you, there are American&#039;s that don&#039;t want to be reliant on Russia for access to our space station, and Commercial Crew is not only that access, but it&#039;s also a new revenue-generating industry for the U.S.  And that industry will generate jobs here at home.

Every dollar we send to Russia is a dollar that permanently leaves the country.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;The OBJECTIVE is to get â€˜crewsâ€™ on orbit to conduct the elusive, nebulous, â€˜valueableâ€™ research.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

As you&#039;ve admitted many times, you don&#039;t follow what is happening with the ISS, so you are ignorant of the research that is taking place there that is the key for ANY space exploration we want to do.  For instance, Chris Hadfield just returned from being the first Canadian ISS commander, and he has been in the news talking about how deleterious the effects of zero-G have been on his body.  If we can&#039;t mitigate such effects, then we are doomed to Apollo-style stunt trips for picking a few rocks and hitting a few golf balls - what a deal for $100B!

&quot;&lt;i&gt;just becaue Congress labeled the ISS a â€˜national labâ€™ doesnt make it so&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Actually it does, since it&#039;s within the power of Congress to designate such things.

And again, the best place to study the problems and solutions to zero-G and space is IN space, and the least expensive location for that is LEO.

Do you want to be stuck doing short space exploration trips forever?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCSCA opined:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>&#8230;the least expensive way to â€˜be in spaceâ€™ is to contract for seats on the operational Soyuz for the rest of the decade&#8230;</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Listen Putin-boi, unlike you, there are American&#8217;s that don&#8217;t want to be reliant on Russia for access to our space station, and Commercial Crew is not only that access, but it&#8217;s also a new revenue-generating industry for the U.S.  And that industry will generate jobs here at home.</p>
<p>Every dollar we send to Russia is a dollar that permanently leaves the country.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>The OBJECTIVE is to get â€˜crewsâ€™ on orbit to conduct the elusive, nebulous, â€˜valueableâ€™ research.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>As you&#8217;ve admitted many times, you don&#8217;t follow what is happening with the ISS, so you are ignorant of the research that is taking place there that is the key for ANY space exploration we want to do.  For instance, Chris Hadfield just returned from being the first Canadian ISS commander, and he has been in the news talking about how deleterious the effects of zero-G have been on his body.  If we can&#8217;t mitigate such effects, then we are doomed to Apollo-style stunt trips for picking a few rocks and hitting a few golf balls &#8211; what a deal for $100B!</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>just becaue Congress labeled the ISS a â€˜national labâ€™ doesnt make it so</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually it does, since it&#8217;s within the power of Congress to designate such things.</p>
<p>And again, the best place to study the problems and solutions to zero-G and space is IN space, and the least expensive location for that is LEO.</p>
<p>Do you want to be stuck doing short space exploration trips forever?</p>
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		<title>By: Egad</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Egad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 14:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt; Kay Bailey Hutchison

Speaking of whom, it appears that Jeff Bingham is moving on. I thought he might hang around to provide continuity, but I guess not.

http://www.spacepolicyonline.com/news/jeff-bingham-to-leave-senate-commerce-committee]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Kay Bailey Hutchison</p>
<p>Speaking of whom, it appears that Jeff Bingham is moving on. I thought he might hang around to provide continuity, but I guess not.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.spacepolicyonline.com/news/jeff-bingham-to-leave-senate-commerce-committee" rel="nofollow">http://www.spacepolicyonline.com/news/jeff-bingham-to-leave-senate-commerce-committee</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Castro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Castro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2013 06:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@DCSCA,....Yes indeed, Paul Spudis has been a consistent champion of renewed Lunar exploration all these years. I find his writings &amp; commentary to be brilliant, as well as his arguments in favor of NASA &amp; America&#039;s focus on Luna as our prime intermediate goal. I too, do NOT buy into this &quot;ultimate destination&quot; way of thinking. MARS CAN WAIT. The Moon is the place where we should be setting up shop; practicing the use of electrical &amp; mechanical equipment upon a planetary surface. Every single proposed Mars mission scheme, has stages that could be very productively &#039;rehearsed&#039; in both Lunar orbit &amp; the surface. Some Mars plans have an earth-return vehice placed in areo-centric orbit, which awaits the human crew, flying unattended for a multi-month span of time. In Project Constellation, the Orion space-craft was to have been left in lunar orbit unattended while a lunar outpost-type expedition had been ferried down to the surface; later to be reached by the earth-returning crew, on its way back. Such a mission flight plan, would be an ideal technology-demonstrator. As would the unmanned landing of a lunar &#039;earth-return&#039; vehicle: a lunar outpost mission will almost certainly involve an automated lander-craft, emplaced on the Moon ahead of a crew, arriving on board a conventional sortie-class lander. If they&#039;d use the in-advance/previously landed vehicle, which has withstood a multi-month long stay in the lunar environment, up to that phase of the mission, for their return-to-lunar-orbit, then VOILA: you&#039;d get another valuable technology demonstration for future interplanetary journeys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@DCSCA,&#8230;.Yes indeed, Paul Spudis has been a consistent champion of renewed Lunar exploration all these years. I find his writings &amp; commentary to be brilliant, as well as his arguments in favor of NASA &amp; America&#8217;s focus on Luna as our prime intermediate goal. I too, do NOT buy into this &#8220;ultimate destination&#8221; way of thinking. MARS CAN WAIT. The Moon is the place where we should be setting up shop; practicing the use of electrical &amp; mechanical equipment upon a planetary surface. Every single proposed Mars mission scheme, has stages that could be very productively &#8216;rehearsed&#8217; in both Lunar orbit &amp; the surface. Some Mars plans have an earth-return vehice placed in areo-centric orbit, which awaits the human crew, flying unattended for a multi-month span of time. In Project Constellation, the Orion space-craft was to have been left in lunar orbit unattended while a lunar outpost-type expedition had been ferried down to the surface; later to be reached by the earth-returning crew, on its way back. Such a mission flight plan, would be an ideal technology-demonstrator. As would the unmanned landing of a lunar &#8216;earth-return&#8217; vehicle: a lunar outpost mission will almost certainly involve an automated lander-craft, emplaced on the Moon ahead of a crew, arriving on board a conventional sortie-class lander. If they&#8217;d use the in-advance/previously landed vehicle, which has withstood a multi-month long stay in the lunar environment, up to that phase of the mission, for their return-to-lunar-orbit, then VOILA: you&#8217;d get another valuable technology demonstration for future interplanetary journeys.</p>
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