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	<title>Comments on: House and Senate NASA FY14 appropriations comparison</title>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/07/23/house-and-senate-nasa-fy14-appropriations-comparison/#comment-420782</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, I will consider myself warned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I will consider myself warned.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Shipley</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/07/23/house-and-senate-nasa-fy14-appropriations-comparison/#comment-420672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Shipley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 02:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DBN and CR have, IMO effectively put paid to any cost, mission, arguments concerning SLS.  The very best that can be said about it is that it&#039;s a jobs program.  Arguments concerning the validity of SLS can be made on that basis but there&#039;s simply no other basis to contemplate maintaining this program.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DBN and CR have, IMO effectively put paid to any cost, mission, arguments concerning SLS.  The very best that can be said about it is that it&#8217;s a jobs program.  Arguments concerning the validity of SLS can be made on that basis but there&#8217;s simply no other basis to contemplate maintaining this program.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Shipley</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/07/23/house-and-senate-nasa-fy14-appropriations-comparison/#comment-420671</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil Shipley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 02:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi CR.  Thanks for the FISO link.  I wasn&#039;t aware of this.  Looks like there&#039;s going to be some great reading in there.
Cheers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi CR.  Thanks for the FISO link.  I wasn&#8217;t aware of this.  Looks like there&#8217;s going to be some great reading in there.<br />
Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/07/23/house-and-senate-nasa-fy14-appropriations-comparison/#comment-420669</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 01:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;chemical fuel abundant booster assisted fully reusable launch vehicles flying direct trajectories to the Moon and Marsâ€, who knew such things already existed?&lt;/i&gt;

I know of two companies actively working on them, Blue Origin in hydrogen for the moon and SpaceX in methane for Mars. These are very wealthy men with missions.

I do believe SpaceX has a working prototype for the boosters and Blue Origin has actually flown a prototype to destruction and is soldiering on. They&#039;ve even tested the engine. So I consider these activities more viable than a twenty billion dollar prototype that purposely self destructs after eight minutes of flight, with only the engines and boosters demonstrated thus far. Your kilometers per second may vary.

Like I said, read it and weep. You (or more specifically your elected representatives and your space agency) has exactly one more chance to save this thing from history.

Quickly now, thousand of jobs are at stake! Maybe even yours. Good luck, joe! It&#039;s your vehicle, so it&#039;s your mission and job to save it. It&#039;s not as if you haven&#039;t been notified of this mission with a self destructing recorded tape already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>chemical fuel abundant booster assisted fully reusable launch vehicles flying direct trajectories to the Moon and Marsâ€, who knew such things already existed?</i></p>
<p>I know of two companies actively working on them, Blue Origin in hydrogen for the moon and SpaceX in methane for Mars. These are very wealthy men with missions.</p>
<p>I do believe SpaceX has a working prototype for the boosters and Blue Origin has actually flown a prototype to destruction and is soldiering on. They&#8217;ve even tested the engine. So I consider these activities more viable than a twenty billion dollar prototype that purposely self destructs after eight minutes of flight, with only the engines and boosters demonstrated thus far. Your kilometers per second may vary.</p>
<p>Like I said, read it and weep. You (or more specifically your elected representatives and your space agency) has exactly one more chance to save this thing from history.</p>
<p>Quickly now, thousand of jobs are at stake! Maybe even yours. Good luck, joe! It&#8217;s your vehicle, so it&#8217;s your mission and job to save it. It&#8217;s not as if you haven&#8217;t been notified of this mission with a self destructing recorded tape already.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/07/23/house-and-senate-nasa-fy14-appropriations-comparison/#comment-420664</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 00:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[another post by an sls supporter chock-full of falsehoods and outright lies. didn&#039;t see that coming.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another post by an sls supporter chock-full of falsehoods and outright lies. didn&#8217;t see that coming.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/07/23/house-and-senate-nasa-fy14-appropriations-comparison/#comment-420662</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 00:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nasa didn&#039;t fly anybody. the russians did. nasa doesn&#039;t have hsf capability atm. guess that&#039;s news to you. no wait, you&#039;re just playing dumb since you don&#039;t have any actual arguments, as usual...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nasa didn&#8217;t fly anybody. the russians did. nasa doesn&#8217;t have hsf capability atm. guess that&#8217;s news to you. no wait, you&#8217;re just playing dumb since you don&#8217;t have any actual arguments, as usual&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/07/23/house-and-senate-nasa-fy14-appropriations-comparison/#comment-420658</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jul 2013 00:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So much for the gentle reminder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much for the gentle reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/07/23/house-and-senate-nasa-fy14-appropriations-comparison/#comment-420655</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe said:

&quot;&lt;i&gt;Note the response by â€œGuestâ€ above&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

I rarely agree with &quot;Guest&quot;, but at least he puts forth ideas and participates in discussion.  The same cannot be said about you Joe.

And since this is a forum to discuss ideas and current events, &quot;Guest&quot; appears to be a better participant on Space Politics than you...  ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe said:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>Note the response by â€œGuestâ€ above</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I rarely agree with &#8220;Guest&#8221;, but at least he puts forth ideas and participates in discussion.  The same cannot be said about you Joe.</p>
<p>And since this is a forum to discuss ideas and current events, &#8220;Guest&#8221; appears to be a better participant on Space Politics than you&#8230;  <img src="http://www.spacepolitics.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" class="wp-smiley" /></p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Foust</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/07/23/house-and-senate-nasa-fy14-appropriations-comparison/#comment-420650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Foust]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A gentle reminder to please focus your attacks on each others&#039; ideas, and not each other. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A gentle reminder to please focus your attacks on each others&#8217; ideas, and not each other. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/07/23/house-and-senate-nasa-fy14-appropriations-comparison/#comment-420646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jul 2013 23:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A noble attempt to hold a rational conversation with â€œCoastal Ronâ€.  Unfortunately your description of him is all too accurate: â€œYou troll on the internet refusing to listen to anyone with actual information and who does not agree with you. Instead you try to insult people time and time again (asking if I care about money is just one example, I find you abrasive and insulting). Itâ€™s sad and suggests something about you.â€

That is sad, as at the top level this website provides links to interesting information and their articles tend to present mild and basically neutral analysis.  The comments section could be a place for discussion and exchange of information among actually knowledgeable people, but it continually gets hijacked by people like â€œCoastal Ronâ€.  Which turns it into a dog-and-pony show.

Note the response by â€œGuestâ€ above: â€œThe DRMs are obsolete in the new world of chemical fuel abundant booster assisted fully reusable launch vehicles flying direct trajectories to the Moon and Mars. You need to get with the program because it has already left you and NASA in the dust, and the longer you wait the more money its going to cost you and the more obsolete technology and beliefs you are going to be stuck with. History remembers this stuff.â€

Wow, â€œchemical fuel abundant booster assisted fully reusable launch vehicles flying direct trajectories to the Moon and Marsâ€, who knew such things already existed?

Like I said sad but unfortunately true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A noble attempt to hold a rational conversation with â€œCoastal Ronâ€.  Unfortunately your description of him is all too accurate: â€œYou troll on the internet refusing to listen to anyone with actual information and who does not agree with you. Instead you try to insult people time and time again (asking if I care about money is just one example, I find you abrasive and insulting). Itâ€™s sad and suggests something about you.â€</p>
<p>That is sad, as at the top level this website provides links to interesting information and their articles tend to present mild and basically neutral analysis.  The comments section could be a place for discussion and exchange of information among actually knowledgeable people, but it continually gets hijacked by people like â€œCoastal Ronâ€.  Which turns it into a dog-and-pony show.</p>
<p>Note the response by â€œGuestâ€ above: â€œThe DRMs are obsolete in the new world of chemical fuel abundant booster assisted fully reusable launch vehicles flying direct trajectories to the Moon and Mars. You need to get with the program because it has already left you and NASA in the dust, and the longer you wait the more money its going to cost you and the more obsolete technology and beliefs you are going to be stuck with. History remembers this stuff.â€</p>
<p>Wow, â€œchemical fuel abundant booster assisted fully reusable launch vehicles flying direct trajectories to the Moon and Marsâ€, who knew such things already existed?</p>
<p>Like I said sad but unfortunately true.</p>
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