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	<title>Comments on: More reactions to Garver&#8217;s departure</title>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/08/07/more-reactions-to-garvers-departure/#comment-422450</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 15:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plus the MPCV is still fighting a pretty big over-weight issue.  NASA wasn&#039;t even sure when that would be solved, except to say they thought it would be a battle up until the first flight with crew.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus the MPCV is still fighting a pretty big over-weight issue.  NASA wasn&#8217;t even sure when that would be solved, except to say they thought it would be a battle up until the first flight with crew.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Kugler</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/08/07/more-reactions-to-garvers-departure/#comment-422447</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Kugler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2013 14:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had heard that LM might try to find a way to bump it up, especially if SpaceX flies people on their own ahead of the NASA commercial crew dates, but I just don&#039;t see how it&#039;s possible.  They&#039;re running so lean that actual mission capability is gone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had heard that LM might try to find a way to bump it up, especially if SpaceX flies people on their own ahead of the NASA commercial crew dates, but I just don&#8217;t see how it&#8217;s possible.  They&#8217;re running so lean that actual mission capability is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/08/07/more-reactions-to-garvers-departure/#comment-422347</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2013 04:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i think the 2017 flight will actually happen, call it a hunch. however, sls will be cancelled soon afterwards, no manned missions, no arm, no moon landing. falcon heavy and its successors will be used for beo missions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the 2017 flight will actually happen, call it a hunch. however, sls will be cancelled soon afterwards, no manned missions, no arm, no moon landing. falcon heavy and its successors will be used for beo missions.</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/08/07/more-reactions-to-garvers-departure/#comment-422345</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2013 04:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol, it will be fun to watch you moving the goal posts some more when spacex flies people in 2015:) then again, maybe you&#039;re just trying out some new material. you are a comedian after all...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol, it will be fun to watch you moving the goal posts some more when spacex flies people in 2015:) then again, maybe you&#8217;re just trying out some new material. you are a comedian after all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/08/07/more-reactions-to-garvers-departure/#comment-422330</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rand Simberg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Aug 2013 00:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;I care about the long-run destiny of the human race&lt;/em&gt;

One would never know it from your hysterical mindless commentary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I care about the long-run destiny of the human race</em></p>
<p>One would never know it from your hysterical mindless commentary.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/08/07/more-reactions-to-garvers-departure/#comment-422303</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 17:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chris Castro said:

&quot;&lt;i&gt;I care about the long-run destiny of the human race...&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Then why do you back plans to reduce - significantly - the ability of us to keep humans in space?

The plans you back spend vast sums of money for &quot;Flags &amp; Footprints&quot; type missions that don&#039;t leave anything behind.  In contrast we have already learned how to live in space - CONTINUOUSLY - for over 12 years.  And for some reason you think that is bad.  UNbelievable.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;These brash-talking, commercial boys are NOT going to save this sinking ship!&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

It is amazing the view you have of private industry.  No really, truly amazing.

Have you ever worked for a high-tech company?  Or anywhere in the manufacturing world?  You know, for companies that build things?

I have spent my professional career in such industries, and I just don&#039;t see where you are coming from.

For instance you do realize that Apollo was mainly built by &quot;brash-talking, commercial boys&quot;, right?  Lots of them right out of college.

And you&#039;ve called on this many times before Chris, but how in the world can you insinuate that Boeing and Sierra Nevada are too immature to be developing spacecraft.  Even SpaceX has shown that they know how to build workable spacecraft, and you completely ignore that.

Words fail me to describe how out of touch you are on this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris Castro said:</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>I care about the long-run destiny of the human race&#8230;</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why do you back plans to reduce &#8211; significantly &#8211; the ability of us to keep humans in space?</p>
<p>The plans you back spend vast sums of money for &#8220;Flags &amp; Footprints&#8221; type missions that don&#8217;t leave anything behind.  In contrast we have already learned how to live in space &#8211; CONTINUOUSLY &#8211; for over 12 years.  And for some reason you think that is bad.  UNbelievable.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>These brash-talking, commercial boys are NOT going to save this sinking ship!</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>It is amazing the view you have of private industry.  No really, truly amazing.</p>
<p>Have you ever worked for a high-tech company?  Or anywhere in the manufacturing world?  You know, for companies that build things?</p>
<p>I have spent my professional career in such industries, and I just don&#8217;t see where you are coming from.</p>
<p>For instance you do realize that Apollo was mainly built by &#8220;brash-talking, commercial boys&#8221;, right?  Lots of them right out of college.</p>
<p>And you&#8217;ve called on this many times before Chris, but how in the world can you insinuate that Boeing and Sierra Nevada are too immature to be developing spacecraft.  Even SpaceX has shown that they know how to build workable spacecraft, and you completely ignore that.</p>
<p>Words fail me to describe how out of touch you are on this.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Castro</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/08/07/more-reactions-to-garvers-departure/#comment-422284</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Castro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 13:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Justin Kugler;....Whatever &amp; ever....so, I might be a &#039;statist&#039;? The thing is, I care about the long-run destiny of the human race, and as soon as I heard all that &quot;we&#039;ve already been there&quot; rhino dung, I resolved to be on the opposing side, to Flexible Path/Obamaspace/New Space. It makes totally NO sense to me, all the changes that this administration has put into effect, for space policy, since 2010. These brash-talking, commercial boys are NOT going to save this sinking ship! Government fully needs to lead the way, at this time. Sure, there may be a farther-future point, in the game, that commercial entities might have a fitting role. But at this stage, in the spacefaring arena, government is the only entity that could handle manned deep space flight, in the short-term.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Justin Kugler;&#8230;.Whatever &amp; ever&#8230;.so, I might be a &#8216;statist&#8217;? The thing is, I care about the long-run destiny of the human race, and as soon as I heard all that &#8220;we&#8217;ve already been there&#8221; rhino dung, I resolved to be on the opposing side, to Flexible Path/Obamaspace/New Space. It makes totally NO sense to me, all the changes that this administration has put into effect, for space policy, since 2010. These brash-talking, commercial boys are NOT going to save this sinking ship! Government fully needs to lead the way, at this time. Sure, there may be a farther-future point, in the game, that commercial entities might have a fitting role. But at this stage, in the spacefaring arena, government is the only entity that could handle manned deep space flight, in the short-term.</p>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/08/07/more-reactions-to-garvers-departure/#comment-422278</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Orion is not scheduled to carry its first crew until2021.The2014flight is a mockup, not a real spacecraft. The 2017 flight is unmanned. My guess is that none of the dates will be met.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orion is not scheduled to carry its first crew until2021.The2014flight is a mockup, not a real spacecraft. The 2017 flight is unmanned. My guess is that none of the dates will be met.</p>
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		<title>By: Daddy</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/08/07/more-reactions-to-garvers-departure/#comment-422258</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lori Garver -- &quot;a steely eyed missile person.&quot;  A fitting tribute.  I&#039;m sure she would be flattered.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori Garver &#8212; &#8220;a steely eyed missile person.&#8221;  A fitting tribute.  I&#8217;m sure she would be flattered.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2013/08/07/more-reactions-to-garvers-departure/#comment-422245</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Aug 2013 00:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Commercial automobile transportation is a path to stagnation the first time someone dies in an auto mobile that will be the end of cars.

Commercial airplane transporation is a path to stagnation, the first time someone dies in one of those new fangled aero planes that will be the end of them.

Commercial ship transportation is a path to stagnation the first time someone dies in on a sinking ship that will be the end of it.

Commercial train transportation is a path to stagnation the first time someone dies in a train accident that will be the end of it.

Commercial space transportation is a path to stagnation, the first time someone dies it will be the end of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commercial automobile transportation is a path to stagnation the first time someone dies in an auto mobile that will be the end of cars.</p>
<p>Commercial airplane transporation is a path to stagnation, the first time someone dies in one of those new fangled aero planes that will be the end of them.</p>
<p>Commercial ship transportation is a path to stagnation the first time someone dies in on a sinking ship that will be the end of it.</p>
<p>Commercial train transportation is a path to stagnation the first time someone dies in a train accident that will be the end of it.</p>
<p>Commercial space transportation is a path to stagnation, the first time someone dies it will be the end of it.</p>
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