spacex said 2.5 billionm, Boeing 6.5 billion and Lockheed Martin 6 billion.

The fact that taxpayers are getting screwed, hell not just screwed, ROYALLY screwed by this nightmare boondoggle is bordering on the criminal. NASA needs to get out of the transportation and development business.

You have us SLS and then didn’t deliver funding.

You have us SLS and then didn’t deliver funding. You have underfunded every single project at NASA except for JWST.

How dare you ram SLS/Orion down our throats, underfund us, and then get pissed off because we didn’t lobby enough to clean up the mess. You are the mess – not the industry or the American people.

The Congress is the mess. And just so people understand, “The Congress” is the US House of Representatives AND the Senate. ITS BOTH.

Hey Bill, how about you call up Harry and your buddies in the Senate, get off your rears, and pass some bills on the floor of the Senate – hell how about holding a vote?

Full disclosure – we could have a bill to fund NASA, just like the VA, Parks, Ect but until the Senate moves – nothing is going to happen. And that is the reality of it all.

That same one. What he said was “I am not a huge, but I am a substantial, skeptic of human spaceflight.”

Of course, what he isn’t a substantial skeptic about is “NASA’s exploration programs to every planet in the solar system”, nor is he a skeptic about “multiple successful robotic missions to the surface of Mars”, or even “the International Space Station (ISS), widely regarded as the most complex engineering project ever endeavored.” He isn’t skeptical about NASA and space exploration in general.

The way I interpret Rockefeller’s comment was that his substantial skepticism was about the current value of human spaceflight which, in truth, is something that is commonly wrestled with these days. We didn’t wrestle with its value during the Cold War, which is what made Armstrong and Cernan real heroes. He isn’t being disrespectful to their faces.

He went on … “I cannot support going into space as an end in and of itself. I agree with the President that we need a measured, nationally, globally relevant and sustainable human space flight program — not one solely bound by place and time in space.”

He also made the point that there are many ways we explore, and not all of them necessarily have to be “glorious”.

Smart words.

Of course, it should be understood that although NASA doesn’t have a center in WVa, the investment in that state is quite substantial, especially through the software IV&V effort in Fairmont. But that work is hardly HSF-specific.

This is the same Rockefeller who said to the faces of Cernan and Armstrong he did not support HSF at a Senate hearing a few summers ago.