The facts of Reality never intrude on the manned space fantasists’ reveries.

Some people call it American Exceptionalism.

“Projects of scale take time but inevitably fly.”

Yep, of which the current “government project of scale” is the ISS. And now NASA plans to extend it’s mission.

Galling, eh?

Once corralled into the distant lunar orbit, the captured asteroid would, according to NASA’s current plans, be visited by human explorers using the Orion crew capsule and Space Launch System (SLS) heavy-lift rocket the agency is working on. That mission would notionally take place around 2025…

2025 is where the current schedule has EM-4, presumably leaving EM-1 and EM-2 in 2017 and 2021 as some sort of circumlunar missions, perhaps to the DRO proposed for the asteroid. EM-3, using the version of SLS with new boosters in 2023, still lacks an identified purpose.

It has been for commercial space since over the past half century, it has flown nobody. Projects of scale take time but inevitably fly. Not so for commercial HAF– which has failed to even attempt to orbit anybody. Ron.

=yawn= NASA identified Mas as a target for manned missions. National Geographic, March, 1964

“Have you priced a Tesla lately? Musk is not going to be the Henry Ford of space”

Do you get confused in conversations easily? Find it hard to concentrate on the subject at hand?

Because why in the world would the price of a car have ANYTHING to do with the price of transporting a satellite to LEO or GTO?

Let me make this as simple as possible. One is a high-end product that addresses a known market for high-end performance cars. The other is a commodity service to transport payloads to specific orbits around Earth.

And since ESA and China have already acknowledged that they can’t match SpaceX in price, I’d say the facts speak for themselves – Musk is not trying to be the Henry Ford of space, Musk is making SpaceX the SpaceX of space transportation.

“…and what is going on is government space projects– you know, ISS…”

Then DCSCA whined:

“The future you crave is one of going in circles, no where, fast.”

It’s funny that you don’t recognize that the only current “government project of scale” is the one that is “going in circles”. No other HSF missions are planned or funded at this time.

Galling, eh?

“…what has been ‘unfolding for years’ is the failure of SpaceX even attempt to fly anybody…”

How can it be a failure when it’s been the plan all along? Your inability to understand what’s going on is breathtaking.

And no one cares about your misapprehension about when things are supposed to happen. NASA and the Commercial Crew participants have no idea you exist, and I see nothing that will change that…

“Space X launched a satellite. Welcome to 1957”

SpaceX launched a satellite to GTO for $56.5M. Welcome to 2014.

As usual you don’t understand why what SpaceX is doing is different than what has come before. Until you understand why, you will continue to be clueless. Stop being clueless.