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		<title>By: Hiram</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/04/05/a-full-schedule-of-hearings-next-week/#comment-478698</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hiram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 21:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s worth a look at the NASA auth bill that will be marked up tomorrow. Somewhat unusually, it is posted well before the markup hearing, at the House Science website. 

Of some interest is that the bill, unlike most NASA auth bills, considers only ONE YEAR -- 2014, for which money is already appropriated. Most auth bills develop long-range strategy for three years that can be used to guide appropriators. Not here. That says to me that this particular bill will be next to worthless for setting longer range goals for the agency, and they&#039;ll just end up doing another one next year with a new congress.

No big surprises, though the legislation makes explicit a plan for human exploration that is NOT critically dependent on the achievement of milestones by specific dates. Of course, having said that, the bill then specifies the first crewed mission of Orion on SLS will happen &quot;as close to 2020 as possible&quot;. 

The bill carefully spells out the need for a Mars Human Exploration roadmap (due in 1 year and to be updated every 4 years) to define specific technologies and capabilities necessary. This roadmap constitutes what they call a &quot;stepping stone approach&quot; to space exploration.  

A curious proviso on commercial crew. NASA is instructed to provide the committee with details about different cost options for commercial crew support. The implication is that they&#039;re reaching for how little they can get away with spending.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s worth a look at the NASA auth bill that will be marked up tomorrow. Somewhat unusually, it is posted well before the markup hearing, at the House Science website. </p>
<p>Of some interest is that the bill, unlike most NASA auth bills, considers only ONE YEAR &#8212; 2014, for which money is already appropriated. Most auth bills develop long-range strategy for three years that can be used to guide appropriators. Not here. That says to me that this particular bill will be next to worthless for setting longer range goals for the agency, and they&#8217;ll just end up doing another one next year with a new congress.</p>
<p>No big surprises, though the legislation makes explicit a plan for human exploration that is NOT critically dependent on the achievement of milestones by specific dates. Of course, having said that, the bill then specifies the first crewed mission of Orion on SLS will happen &#8220;as close to 2020 as possible&#8221;. </p>
<p>The bill carefully spells out the need for a Mars Human Exploration roadmap (due in 1 year and to be updated every 4 years) to define specific technologies and capabilities necessary. This roadmap constitutes what they call a &#8220;stepping stone approach&#8221; to space exploration.  </p>
<p>A curious proviso on commercial crew. NASA is instructed to provide the committee with details about different cost options for commercial crew support. The implication is that they&#8217;re reaching for how little they can get away with spending.</p>
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		<title>By: Coastal Ron</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/04/05/a-full-schedule-of-hearings-next-week/#comment-478692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Coastal Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 19:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Watched part of the House hearing today - Bolden was being very clear about the need for Commercial Crew for transportation to anywhere in LEO, and how in no way does the SLS &amp; Orion satisfy that need.

One other observation is that Congressman Wolf tends to ask a lot of questions based on things reported in the media.  In other words he doesn&#039;t know enough about NASA to ask questions of his own, and he&#039;s not interested enough in NASA to be focused on the future of NASA.

That to me verifies that at least the House is not interested in pushing for an expanded budget for NASA so they can use the SLS.  It was asked about using the SLS for the proposed Europa mission, but as Bolden stated the Science Directorate has to make the decision on that, and they are still evaluating the use of the SLS.  And of course that is only one mission for the SLS at some indeterminate point in the future - where is the preponderance of payloads that require the SLS and only the SLS?  Did I miss something at the hearing?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watched part of the House hearing today &#8211; Bolden was being very clear about the need for Commercial Crew for transportation to anywhere in LEO, and how in no way does the SLS &amp; Orion satisfy that need.</p>
<p>One other observation is that Congressman Wolf tends to ask a lot of questions based on things reported in the media.  In other words he doesn&#8217;t know enough about NASA to ask questions of his own, and he&#8217;s not interested enough in NASA to be focused on the future of NASA.</p>
<p>That to me verifies that at least the House is not interested in pushing for an expanded budget for NASA so they can use the SLS.  It was asked about using the SLS for the proposed Europa mission, but as Bolden stated the Science Directorate has to make the decision on that, and they are still evaluating the use of the SLS.  And of course that is only one mission for the SLS at some indeterminate point in the future &#8211; where is the preponderance of payloads that require the SLS and only the SLS?  Did I miss something at the hearing?</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They did build it, the saturn v ... then .. they canceled it ... 
They did build it, ALMOST the Ares V .... then .. they canceled it...
They did build it, ALMOST the SLS ... then ... it will be canceled..

you are an illustration of insanity.. banging your head into that same brick wall expecting a different result.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They did build it, the saturn v &#8230; then .. they canceled it &#8230;<br />
They did build it, ALMOST the Ares V &#8230;. then .. they canceled it&#8230;<br />
They did build it, ALMOST the SLS &#8230; then &#8230; it will be canceled..</p>
<p>you are an illustration of insanity.. banging your head into that same brick wall expecting a different result.</p>
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		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/04/05/a-full-schedule-of-hearings-next-week/#comment-478684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Coastal Ron wrote: &quot;Regarding the Griffin era though, apparently he didnâ€™t mind SRMâ€™s for the Ares I/V.&quot;

That is why I believe it was congress doing the telling. Griffin, didn&#039;t want to use SRB&#039;s when he was doing the designing away from NASA, but on his return suddenly he was an ATK supporter? Didn&#039;t wash for me, the UTAH delegation probably made it pretty clear, you want your monster rocket then you utilize this hardware.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coastal Ron wrote: &#8220;Regarding the Griffin era though, apparently he didnâ€™t mind SRMâ€™s for the Ares I/V.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is why I believe it was congress doing the telling. Griffin, didn&#8217;t want to use SRB&#8217;s when he was doing the designing away from NASA, but on his return suddenly he was an ATK supporter? Didn&#8217;t wash for me, the UTAH delegation probably made it pretty clear, you want your monster rocket then you utilize this hardware.</p>
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		<title>By: Malmesbury</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Malmesbury]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 10:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2017 isn&#039;t an accidental date - it was politically agreed. Funding was deliberately cut (reduced to the level required, if you think that way) do that first flight would be after Orion. Well, at least the coming test if an unmanned, overweight Orion on a launcher if will never be allowed to use again. 

Congress wants the gap. No launch before Orion. No launch manned before the next presidential election.

The anger when one of CC entrants engineers was noticed to be working on a docking adapter concept to allow early access to ISS was proof of that if nothing else. Not SpaceX, incidently....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2017 isn&#8217;t an accidental date &#8211; it was politically agreed. Funding was deliberately cut (reduced to the level required, if you think that way) do that first flight would be after Orion. Well, at least the coming test if an unmanned, overweight Orion on a launcher if will never be allowed to use again. </p>
<p>Congress wants the gap. No launch before Orion. No launch manned before the next presidential election.</p>
<p>The anger when one of CC entrants engineers was noticed to be working on a docking adapter concept to allow early access to ISS was proof of that if nothing else. Not SpaceX, incidently&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Swallow</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/04/05/a-full-schedule-of-hearings-next-week/#comment-478666</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew Swallow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 07:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[COTS was announced eight years ago in 2006.  We are near the end of Commercial Crew now.  So sticking to the plan &lt;b&gt;is the way to hurry&lt;/b&gt;.

&quot;Order Plus Counter Order Equals Disorder.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>COTS was announced eight years ago in 2006.  We are near the end of Commercial Crew now.  So sticking to the plan <b>is the way to hurry</b>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Order Plus Counter Order Equals Disorder.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Reality Bits</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/04/05/a-full-schedule-of-hearings-next-week/#comment-478661</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Reality Bits]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 05:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A bit of historical info ....

In 2008 the thought was for commercial providers to close the gap to 2014

&lt;i&gt;â€œIâ€™m less and less inclined to think thatâ€™s the right thing to do, because the closest we could close that gap in 2014, and that doesnâ€™t do much for station,â€ said Jeff Bingham, a staffer on the space subcommittee of the Senate Commerce Committee. â€œSo COTS D becomes the next candidate on the table.â€&lt;/i&gt;

â€œThe COTS conundrumâ€, 28 JUL 2008 ( http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1179/1 )

And from the same article to close the gap to 2011 if possible:

&lt;i&gt;The Senate version of the NASA authorization legislation currently under consideration, S. 3270, does contain language specifically directing NASA to move ahead with a version of COTS D. It calls on NASA to enter into Space Act Agreements with at least two teams to develop commercial crew capabilities that would be available by the end of fiscal year 2011 (â€œor as soon thereafter as is practicableâ€), and authorizes $150 million in fiscal year 2009 for starting that effort. Similar language was included in the version of the bill that the House passed in June.&lt;/i&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit of historical info &#8230;.</p>
<p>In 2008 the thought was for commercial providers to close the gap to 2014</p>
<p><i>â€œIâ€™m less and less inclined to think thatâ€™s the right thing to do, because the closest we could close that gap in 2014, and that doesnâ€™t do much for station,â€ said Jeff Bingham, a staffer on the space subcommittee of the Senate Commerce Committee. â€œSo COTS D becomes the next candidate on the table.â€</i></p>
<p>â€œThe COTS conundrumâ€, 28 JUL 2008 ( <a href="http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1179/1" rel="nofollow">http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1179/1</a> )</p>
<p>And from the same article to close the gap to 2011 if possible:</p>
<p><i>The Senate version of the NASA authorization legislation currently under consideration, S. 3270, does contain language specifically directing NASA to move ahead with a version of COTS D. It calls on NASA to enter into Space Act Agreements with at least two teams to develop commercial crew capabilities that would be available by the end of fiscal year 2011 (â€œor as soon thereafter as is practicableâ€), and authorizes $150 million in fiscal year 2009 for starting that effort. Similar language was included in the version of the bill that the House passed in June.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Hiram</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/04/05/a-full-schedule-of-hearings-next-week/#comment-478653</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hiram]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 02:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With regard to the markup, we should bear in mind that the demise of a NASA Authorization bill last year was a MAJOR embarrassment to the Science Committee. That was probably the first time that raw politics and partisanship derailed such a bill. It will be interesting to see how leadership approaches this bill to ensure that doesn&#039;t happen again. With regard to NASA, congressional consensus used to be a given. Last year, that consensus fell completely apart. That is, NASA used to be handicapped by just not having enough congressional money. But it is now handicapped by having serious congressional arguments about long-range policy. That&#039;s where NewSpace is really starting to shine. It not only can survive without serious congressional investment, but it can certainly survive without serious congressional agreement. Congressional disagreement, however, is just a recipe for a floundering NASA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to the markup, we should bear in mind that the demise of a NASA Authorization bill last year was a MAJOR embarrassment to the Science Committee. That was probably the first time that raw politics and partisanship derailed such a bill. It will be interesting to see how leadership approaches this bill to ensure that doesn&#8217;t happen again. With regard to NASA, congressional consensus used to be a given. Last year, that consensus fell completely apart. That is, NASA used to be handicapped by just not having enough congressional money. But it is now handicapped by having serious congressional arguments about long-range policy. That&#8217;s where NewSpace is really starting to shine. It not only can survive without serious congressional investment, but it can certainly survive without serious congressional agreement. Congressional disagreement, however, is just a recipe for a floundering NASA.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen C. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen C. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 01:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The pork lovers will blame Obama for supposedly &quot;underfunding&quot; Orion, even though it&#039;s already had a decade and $10 billion.

Congress will never, ever accept blame for screwing up human spaceflight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pork lovers will blame Obama for supposedly &#8220;underfunding&#8221; Orion, even though it&#8217;s already had a decade and $10 billion.</p>
<p>Congress will never, ever accept blame for screwing up human spaceflight.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen C. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/04/05/a-full-schedule-of-hearings-next-week/#comment-478650</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen C. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2014 01:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In November 2013, the NASA IG issued a report which found that over the fiscal years 2011-2013 Congress cut the commercial crew budget to 38% (a 62% cut) of what the President requested:

http://oig.nasa.gov/audits/reports/FY13/IG-14-001.pdf

For the current fiscal year, if you do the math it works out to about 85%, or a 15% cut.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In November 2013, the NASA IG issued a report which found that over the fiscal years 2011-2013 Congress cut the commercial crew budget to 38% (a 62% cut) of what the President requested:</p>
<p><a href="http://oig.nasa.gov/audits/reports/FY13/IG-14-001.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://oig.nasa.gov/audits/reports/FY13/IG-14-001.pdf</a></p>
<p>For the current fiscal year, if you do the math it works out to about 85%, or a 15% cut.</p>
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