<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: With an SLS slip looming, one senator wants to keep NASA&#8217;s budget &#8220;on track&#8221;</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/?utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track</link>
	<description>Because sometimes the most important orbit is the Beltway...</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 13:35:41 +0000</lastBuildDate>
		<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
		<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=4.0.38</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: vulture4</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/#comment-731984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vulture4]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2014 15:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=7312#comment-731984</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone tried contacting Nelson (or his space legislative assistant) directly?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone tried contacting Nelson (or his space legislative assistant) directly?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Vladislaw</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/#comment-728455</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vladislaw]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 20:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=7312#comment-728455</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[It is like that joke about Keith Richards ...he died six years ago but nobody told him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is like that joke about Keith Richards &#8230;he died six years ago but nobody told him.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ben Russell-Gough</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/#comment-728360</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Russell-Gough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=7312#comment-728360</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Except that there is no will to build another SLS core beyond the two for EM-1 and EM-2 before 2021... and the PLF won&#039;t be ready until 2023. The problem is that SLS is being treated as the &#039;pet project that the Boss loves too much to cancel&#039;. NASA are doing what they are told but have shown no indication that they are willing to push the program forward beyond specific Congressional demands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except that there is no will to build another SLS core beyond the two for EM-1 and EM-2 before 2021&#8230; and the PLF won&#8217;t be ready until 2023. The problem is that SLS is being treated as the &#8216;pet project that the Boss loves too much to cancel&#8217;. NASA are doing what they are told but have shown no indication that they are willing to push the program forward beyond specific Congressional demands.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: red</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/#comment-727794</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[red]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=7312#comment-727794</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[&quot;they gave NASA reform a shot, got almost nothing for their effort, and logically have zero interest in returning to and expending more capital on such a low-priority, low-return issue.&quot;

I think they gave up way too much in the 2010 compromise, but I wouldn&#039;t say they got almost nothing for their effort (politically they got a lot of hassle but I&#039;m talking about substance).  The future of ISS by 2015 was questionable, and now it&#039;s supposed to run through some time in the 2020&#039;s, and it&#039;s being used more for remote sensing, space technology, science, various new commercial/private partnerships (like Nanoracks, various cubesats, BEAM, CASIS), etc.  Commercial cargo was strengthened and now we might see some interesting cargo improvements with CRS2.  Commercial crew was started.  Some NASA areas (particularly in KSC) are finding commercial uses.  While nothing like the originally intended big reform and budget boost, some space technology areas were restored and patched up here and there.  While nothing like the originally intended revival of robotic precursors, they&#039;re looking into cubesat robotic precursor missions and ISRU on Mars 2020.

In other words, the situation is bad now, but it probably would have been a whole lot worse without the FY2011 reform attempt.

&quot;Moreover, terminating SLS calls into question ARM and the Presidentâ€™s 2025 NEO goal.&quot;

I really don&#039;t think the Administration cares about the 2025 NEO goal or ARM.  The NEO goal was just an attempt to appease people complaining about &quot;no HSF destination/schedule&quot; while responding to the pre-Augustine Committee calls for various non-surface stepping stone destinations on the way to Mars orbit.  ARM is just a variant of that when faced with the inability to do much of anything while SLS/Orion exist.

It&#039;s probably futile for the Administration to attempt a big overhaul like they tried with FY2011, or to expect them to.  However, they at least could (and should) attempt a partial reform.  For example, they could leave SLS and SLS ground systems alone, figuring the constituents for those are too powerful, and just go after Orion with its mass, schedule, and cost problems.  They were already able to extract the Orion SM from its constituents, so it can be done.  They could try to replace Orion with cislunar space versions of commercial cargo and then crew competitions.  This would likely leave funding left over for something for SLS to do (e.g.: Europa Clipper, commercial partnership hab/gateway/lunar lander to work with the cislunar commercial capsule).  There would also likely be funding left over to sooth the Orion constituents (e.g.: more capabilities for Dream Chaser).  This would also allow ESA to make a more useful contribution than the Orion SM.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;they gave NASA reform a shot, got almost nothing for their effort, and logically have zero interest in returning to and expending more capital on such a low-priority, low-return issue.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think they gave up way too much in the 2010 compromise, but I wouldn&#8217;t say they got almost nothing for their effort (politically they got a lot of hassle but I&#8217;m talking about substance).  The future of ISS by 2015 was questionable, and now it&#8217;s supposed to run through some time in the 2020&#8217;s, and it&#8217;s being used more for remote sensing, space technology, science, various new commercial/private partnerships (like Nanoracks, various cubesats, BEAM, CASIS), etc.  Commercial cargo was strengthened and now we might see some interesting cargo improvements with CRS2.  Commercial crew was started.  Some NASA areas (particularly in KSC) are finding commercial uses.  While nothing like the originally intended big reform and budget boost, some space technology areas were restored and patched up here and there.  While nothing like the originally intended revival of robotic precursors, they&#8217;re looking into cubesat robotic precursor missions and ISRU on Mars 2020.</p>
<p>In other words, the situation is bad now, but it probably would have been a whole lot worse without the FY2011 reform attempt.</p>
<p>&#8220;Moreover, terminating SLS calls into question ARM and the Presidentâ€™s 2025 NEO goal.&#8221;</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think the Administration cares about the 2025 NEO goal or ARM.  The NEO goal was just an attempt to appease people complaining about &#8220;no HSF destination/schedule&#8221; while responding to the pre-Augustine Committee calls for various non-surface stepping stone destinations on the way to Mars orbit.  ARM is just a variant of that when faced with the inability to do much of anything while SLS/Orion exist.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s probably futile for the Administration to attempt a big overhaul like they tried with FY2011, or to expect them to.  However, they at least could (and should) attempt a partial reform.  For example, they could leave SLS and SLS ground systems alone, figuring the constituents for those are too powerful, and just go after Orion with its mass, schedule, and cost problems.  They were already able to extract the Orion SM from its constituents, so it can be done.  They could try to replace Orion with cislunar space versions of commercial cargo and then crew competitions.  This would likely leave funding left over for something for SLS to do (e.g.: Europa Clipper, commercial partnership hab/gateway/lunar lander to work with the cislunar commercial capsule).  There would also likely be funding left over to sooth the Orion constituents (e.g.: more capabilities for Dream Chaser).  This would also allow ESA to make a more useful contribution than the Orion SM.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: josh</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/#comment-727777</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=7312#comment-727777</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[sls is dead, some people just haven&#039;t realized it yet. there will be more slips ofc and it will never get to the launchpad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sls is dead, some people just haven&#8217;t realized it yet. there will be more slips ofc and it will never get to the launchpad.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: common sense</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/#comment-727751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[common sense]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 16:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=7312#comment-727751</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Ah come on! They made real great progress. It only took them what 2 or 3 weeks to realize that they were late by 1 year or 2. Then of course it took them several years to get to that point... 

Oh well...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah come on! They made real great progress. It only took them what 2 or 3 weeks to realize that they were late by 1 year or 2. Then of course it took them several years to get to that point&#8230; </p>
<p>Oh well&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dark Blue Nine</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/#comment-727267</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dark Blue Nine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 14:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=7312#comment-727267</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Yes, great progress in slipping SLS another year and being totally unaware of the slipping schedule all the way up to the PM!

With progress like this, who needs project delays?

Or unaware, out-of-touch PMs in self-denial?

Onwards to the next delay!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, great progress in slipping SLS another year and being totally unaware of the slipping schedule all the way up to the PM!</p>
<p>With progress like this, who needs project delays?</p>
<p>Or unaware, out-of-touch PMs in self-denial?</p>
<p>Onwards to the next delay!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ben Russell-Gough</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/#comment-727005</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ben Russell-Gough]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 12:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=7312#comment-727005</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Was that post meant to be ironic or something?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was that post meant to be ironic or something?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: amightywind</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/#comment-726780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[amightywind]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 11:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=7312#comment-726780</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations to the SLS team for great progress.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations to the SLS team for great progress.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stephen C. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.spacepolitics.com/2014/08/27/with-an-sls-slip-looming-one-senator-wants-to-keep-nasas-budget-on-track/#comment-726409</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen C. Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.spacepolitics.com/?p=7312#comment-726409</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve posted on YouTube the audio of the telecon if you want to listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNkB2k9pCSQ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posted on YouTube the audio of the telecon if you want to listen:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNkB2k9pCSQ" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNkB2k9pCSQ</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
